Homosexual subtext?

[Troll]

Okay, even I question the validity of this as a debate to a degree, but something got me wondering about something and here I am.

Is there really a homosexual subtext to Stargate Atlantis? I missed this weeks episode so I went to IMDB to get the episode name and number so I could download it and I noticed this was under the show's content

TV Series:"Stargate: Atlantis" (2004)
Original Air Date:9 November 2007 (Season 4, Episode 7)
Genre:Action / Drama / Sci-Fi / Adventure more
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Plot Keywords:Homosexual Subtext / Good Versus Evil / Made For Cable TV / Alien / Atlantis more


Has anyone noticed an ongoing theme of homosexuality between any of the characters? Am I so damned enlightened that there is and I just ain't noticed it? Or is my damn gaydar broke? :doh

But for the purpose of the spirit of debate, are there things being attached to things such as movies, music and tv shows by collectives or groups of people in order to ease others into acceptance? I mean we can say the democrats are the most pro-environmental people because they contain the "save the world hippies" (not really my choice of words but something a guy I know has said in the past) and more heavy recyclers and those who push for things more "loudly", but there is also the fact that the republicans are heavy on saving the environment as they are the more predominent hunters and fishers and know of the need for clean woodlands and waterways for their activities and many are involved in saving the wetlands and forest lands through buying up the lands. Yet when we speak of the environment, we think more towards liberals or democrats.

So , as previously asked, are certain groups assigned the larger responsibility of caring about an issue than they actually deserve or warrant? Or are some groups just trying different tactics to make the opposition feel more relaxed about an issue because they attach something to things that others can relate to?

And this should be a peaceful debate. The worst this should bring about is an argument over who has a claim on what cause, when it is my opinion that people in general have a claim on all causes.

[Psy10]

Isn't that the show with one of the captains who dies and then comes back as a female and meets her estranged fiancee? If so, there goes your homosexual subtext.

ETA: I made a mistake. It was Star Trek with the lesbian storyline.

[Doc Doofus]

There is always the possibility the tagging was an act of comic sabotage. I went googling Stargate Atlantis Gay to see what I could find. I found a few puny-sounding items in support of the gay Atlantis theory, but since I have never watched it (nor cared for any episode of the Stargate franchise), I'm not in a position to evaluate it.

Best (pro-subtext) link I could find was:

http://clare-nce.livejournal.com/tag/harry+potter
So Stargate Atlantis: John Shepard couldn't be gayer if they put him in pink DMs and stuck a sign saying on him 'I am gayer than a gay thing in gayville'. Not that I'm complaining. Oh no, bring it on. It's just that I'm in danger of getting my hopes up that the show might actually go there. Gay Shepard pining after a straight McKay: Oh yes, I can feel the angst from here.

However, I suspect it might just be the Actor (Joe Flannigan) trying to confound the norms of an sf hero. Go for it Joe.

Such speculation comes from all of season 3 but I've just watched the final episode. It's rather good. Some good character moments, Wier still does nothing for me - but Stargate has never excelled with its female characters (except for Vala who I really like)

So hopes for Season 4

1.Admit Shepherd is gay (just not going to happen)
2.Get rid if Weir (Looks like it will happen to a degree)
3.Bring Daniel Jackson and Vala over from SG-1 (Nope getting Carter instead which I think is a terrible idea)
4.Keep lots of Zelenka despite inflicting Carter on Atlantis
5.Even more Sheppard Mckay stuff (although after the last half season I'm not sure that's even possible)

It wouldn't be the first time there have been gay subtexts to cheesy sci-fi series. Xena and Gabrielle come to mind very quickly. In comics, even back in the fifties, there was controversy surrounding Batman and Robin which, in part, led to the Comic Book Code. And then there's all the slash fan fiction sites, which seem to thrive on manufacturing gay relationships between characters in sci-fi/fantasy franchises; still, it's hard to see how to blame that on the franchise producers.

[Psy10]

Huh? I always thought Xena and Gabrielle were lesbians. Real straight women don't kiss each other on the lips.

http://www.afterellen.com/TV/xena.html?page=0%2C0

[Doc Doofus]

That was an interesting link you gave above:

... But something else soon appeared to distinguish Xena from the rest of the pack for lesbian and bisexual women. The writers, producers and actors began intentionally introducing sexual innuendo and dialog that lesbian audiences could read as desire between women, while the rest of the show’s viewing public wouldn’t necessarily notice a thing, such as this exchange in the second episode of Season 3:

Joxer (looking at Xena’s neck): “Is that a hickey?”
Gabrielle and Xena both turn away with guilty looks.

These hints at a romantic or sexual relationship between the two characters became known as “subtext.”

[Psy10]

Subtext is usually not in your face but they kissed, touched and I have no idea what else. How much gayer do they need to be?! :lol:

[voicesinside]

That was an interesting link you gave above:
Yeah but from what I understand in the time that show took place in being bisexual was very common and it was rare that you were straight.

[Doc Doofus]

The subtext of Xena was the only thing I ever really liked about it. All the little inside jokes. Like when Xena and Gabrielle helped a bunch of actors put on a show, and two of the female actresses, holding hands, come up to Xena at the end of the episode and tell them, "Thanks to you, we both now realize that we were always meant to be thespians." They never came out and said that, yeah, Xena and Gabrielle had a real sexual thang going on.

More googling for "Atlantis Gay Subtext" found this:
http://www.outinperth.com/index.php/screen/tv/spuds-in-space
... As well as great scripts, cracking FX and cool actors, the series is of interest to gay sci-fi fans for the extremely homoerotic subtext between series hottie Colonel John Sheppard (Joe Flanigan) and sarcastic scientist Doctor Rodney McKay (David Hewlitt). If you tried counting all the unnecessary touching, loaded glances and near-snogs, you’d be up all night. This season brings a special bonus, in an episode where McKay is accidentally ‘possessed’ by a female civilian with a crush on Doctor Carson Beckett (Paul McGillion) leading to what is according to Hewlitt ‘The first male to male kiss in sci-fi series history’. And boy is Colonel Sheppard jealous!!