BlackCat007
26th Jun 2009, 7:16 PM
I gathered this information through XML files, and though it might be interesting to others too, especially builders.
:new: added XML files which hold all these properties and more. You can open them with notepad, but I recommend free program XML Maker (http://symbolclick.com/) for better viewing and understanding.
:alarm: Please remember, that this is from XML files, so it can be overridden by mods you have or through patches and EPs.
There are several types of community lots, for example library, gym, pool.... Almost all of these community lots are unique because of their buffs, nonplayer sims visiting times, crowd size and map tags.
How to build a specific lot type
Empty - self-explanatory
Simple - doesn't fulfill any other condition
Fishing Venue - min number of fishing spots needed on a venue before the game will think it is fishing venue = 1
Small Park - min number of park objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is a park =3
Big Park - min number of park-objects before the park counts as a big park = 10
Beach - min number of beach objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is a beach = 1*
Pool - min number of pools needed on a venue before the game will think it is a swimming pool =1
Art Gallery - min number of arty objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is an art gallery =16
Library - min number of bookshelves needed on a venue before the game will think it is a library = 12
Gym - min number of gym objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is a gym = 4
Graveyard - min number of graveyard objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is graveyard = 4 or/and min number of mausoleums** needed on a venue before the game will think it is graveyard =1.
Rabbit hole - any type of rabbit hole, except mausoleum. At this point lot looses its identity and you can see only the rabbit hole’s map tag. I think this is done so you can have many different rabbit holes on the same lot, like with Mirabello Plaza you have theatre, bookshop and grocery shop all on the same lot and three different map tags. Also sims’ visiting hours, preferences and crowd sizes relate to a radius around a rabbit hole and not to the lot in whole.
*This is tested, indeed, location doesn’t matter, adding one beach umbrella to the lot converts it into a beach type.
**Mausoleum has its own buff – creepy graveyard. It is not connected to graveyard lot type.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/Blackcat007/ScreenShot067-1.jpg
These lot types are listed in override order, meaning that once you fulfill a condition for an art gallery, this lot can’t be a pool, even if it has dozens of pools. Or if you have a gym, you will get a gym buff and won’t get a library buff, even if you have 100 bookshelves on the same lot.
I don’t know what graveyard objects are, park objects etc., but they do seem to be pretty logical. For example, I found out that beach umbrella is a beach object, and grill, swing set and chess table are park objects, while chairs and tables aren’t. That’s why Maywood Glen isn’t considered a park, even though it looks like a park type, it only has one chess table and you need three park objects.
Where to have a party and where not
Parties:
You can rent these places for a party:
Pool – 300$
Small Parks – 200$
Big Park – 250$
Beach Venue – 250$
Fishing Venue – 150$
Art Gallery – 400$
I always wondered why I can’t have a party at Recurve Strand (small beach) or at Maywood Glen (one with a chess set and a couple of tables). Now I know why: game simply considered them misc. lots, and those can’t be rented out for a party. By adding a couple of grills and a swing set I could have a party at Maywood Glen
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/Blackcat007/ScreenShot072-2.jpg
Why this matters, besides map tag
Plus to known buffs and visible map tag difference, there are also additional properties to the lot types - about sims types visiting and crowd sizes and pick hours. All those are logical. You will more likely meet sims from Athletic career at the Stadium; there will be more people at the big park, then at the small; there will be no one on the empty lot; more bookworms at the library and athletics at the gym; restourant will be crowded during lunch and dinner times and so on. If someone will want this information badly enough I will post it, it’s just that it's a LOT of it :P . Just remember that lot type actually influences what sims you will more likely meet there.
If there is some other information about community lots you would like to know, please tell. I’ll try to find and post it. :P
:new: added XML files which hold all these properties and more. You can open them with notepad, but I recommend free program XML Maker (http://symbolclick.com/) for better viewing and understanding.
:alarm: Please remember, that this is from XML files, so it can be overridden by mods you have or through patches and EPs.
There are several types of community lots, for example library, gym, pool.... Almost all of these community lots are unique because of their buffs, nonplayer sims visiting times, crowd size and map tags.
How to build a specific lot type
Empty - self-explanatory
Simple - doesn't fulfill any other condition
Fishing Venue - min number of fishing spots needed on a venue before the game will think it is fishing venue = 1
Small Park - min number of park objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is a park =3
Big Park - min number of park-objects before the park counts as a big park = 10
Beach - min number of beach objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is a beach = 1*
Pool - min number of pools needed on a venue before the game will think it is a swimming pool =1
Art Gallery - min number of arty objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is an art gallery =16
Library - min number of bookshelves needed on a venue before the game will think it is a library = 12
Gym - min number of gym objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is a gym = 4
Graveyard - min number of graveyard objects needed on a venue before the game will think it is graveyard = 4 or/and min number of mausoleums** needed on a venue before the game will think it is graveyard =1.
Rabbit hole - any type of rabbit hole, except mausoleum. At this point lot looses its identity and you can see only the rabbit hole’s map tag. I think this is done so you can have many different rabbit holes on the same lot, like with Mirabello Plaza you have theatre, bookshop and grocery shop all on the same lot and three different map tags. Also sims’ visiting hours, preferences and crowd sizes relate to a radius around a rabbit hole and not to the lot in whole.
*This is tested, indeed, location doesn’t matter, adding one beach umbrella to the lot converts it into a beach type.
**Mausoleum has its own buff – creepy graveyard. It is not connected to graveyard lot type.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/Blackcat007/ScreenShot067-1.jpg
These lot types are listed in override order, meaning that once you fulfill a condition for an art gallery, this lot can’t be a pool, even if it has dozens of pools. Or if you have a gym, you will get a gym buff and won’t get a library buff, even if you have 100 bookshelves on the same lot.
I don’t know what graveyard objects are, park objects etc., but they do seem to be pretty logical. For example, I found out that beach umbrella is a beach object, and grill, swing set and chess table are park objects, while chairs and tables aren’t. That’s why Maywood Glen isn’t considered a park, even though it looks like a park type, it only has one chess table and you need three park objects.
Where to have a party and where not
Parties:
You can rent these places for a party:
Pool – 300$
Small Parks – 200$
Big Park – 250$
Beach Venue – 250$
Fishing Venue – 150$
Art Gallery – 400$
I always wondered why I can’t have a party at Recurve Strand (small beach) or at Maywood Glen (one with a chess set and a couple of tables). Now I know why: game simply considered them misc. lots, and those can’t be rented out for a party. By adding a couple of grills and a swing set I could have a party at Maywood Glen
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c126/Blackcat007/ScreenShot072-2.jpg
Why this matters, besides map tag
Plus to known buffs and visible map tag difference, there are also additional properties to the lot types - about sims types visiting and crowd sizes and pick hours. All those are logical. You will more likely meet sims from Athletic career at the Stadium; there will be more people at the big park, then at the small; there will be no one on the empty lot; more bookworms at the library and athletics at the gym; restourant will be crowded during lunch and dinner times and so on. If someone will want this information badly enough I will post it, it’s just that it's a LOT of it :P . Just remember that lot type actually influences what sims you will more likely meet there.
If there is some other information about community lots you would like to know, please tell. I’ll try to find and post it. :P