Bella Goth!

[HystericalParoxysm]

Bella Bella Bella!!

Bella Goth!

The real Bella! The fake Bella! Everything Bella!

This is the ONE Bella thread allowed here. All others will be abducted by aliens and probed.

[SimGameFan]

Pleasantview Bella is real, Strangetown Bella is fake, one of the ways to get her back is summon her, kill her, then ressurect her. Never move her in and then save the lot, she'll be a ghost when you come back and then 'OMG OH NO HELP!1!!' no more bella. Never waste your time trying to find out the big 'mystery' about Bella, it's not worth it, nothing special is going to happen if you reunite Bella with Mortimer.
That's all I have to say.

[Julieth]

Bella Goth is very pretty and, if extracted with SimPe and put into CAS, creates nice babies. That's the news from this simmer...

[gali]

Here is the final proof which is the real Bella:

Pleasantview - as SimGameFan said:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/gali123/realbella.jpg

Strangetown - the fake Bella:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/gali123/bellafake.jpg

I know many players who moved the Goth Family to Strangetown, only to unite which can't be united for real. :)

[danishani2_SC]

yeah I got bella back in Pleasentview like a couple of months after I got the game and re-united with her family it was so cute when she appeared and little Alexander came running to her and hugged her.^_^
The others just waved and said "granatsoow" lol.

[MissLynn22]

I was really disappointed when I reunited Bella with her family. First because I reunited the fake Bella and then because it was so...not special. Anticlimactic, if you will. I was expecting something. I wasn't sure what, but definitely SOMETHING.

And I got nothing. It was all very blah and not worth the trouble or time.

[gali]

MissLynn22, may I suggest you to download from the BBS (exchange) the Sims 1 Goth family? Choose the one in which Bella is pregnant. They both have family aspiration (not as the romance Bella in TS2), and are very pretty sims. I play them now, and it's real pleasure. Search "families"/"Goth".

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/gali123/sims1bella.jpg

[oceanborn_SC]

I've never actually wanted to reunite Bella with Mortimer. I love him with his gold digger trophy wife Dina Caliente. I now know for sure that Maxis made the Strangetown Bella because they wanted people to think that she was the real Bella. She was meant to be the "real" Bella even if she doesn't look much like Pleasantview Bella. Maxis may think that we aren't that smart to find out.
If you go into Mortimer, Cassandra or Alex' memories you will see that Bella Goth was abducted by aliens. Maxis intended to make us simmers think that Bella was abducted and then thrown out of the UFO and into Strangetown (where all the alien/scifi things are). There are some things that don't fit in with the abduction things.
Bella was last time seen on Don Lothario's balcony where she was gazing the stars.... with a small telescope.....
Maxis may just have taken the picture without thinking much about what's logical.....

As for Bella's looks.... I don't think she looks any special. She's okay but she's so template. I like Cassandra's looks much more. She's more unique.
And Strangetown Bella and Brandi Broke could have been twins..............
Strangetown Bella is definitely the first template.

But one thing is weird..... Why did Maxis make a new Bella for Strangetown?
Why didn't they just clone the Pleasantview file?

[MissLynn22]

I'm going to go ahead and say that they created two Bellas because they thought it would be fun to see people on the BBS first freaking out about Bella being gone and then freaking out about which Bella was the "real" Bella.

[oceanborn_SC]

I'm going to go ahead and say that they created two Bellas because they thought it would be fun to see people on the BBS first freaking out about Bella being gone and then freaking out about which Bella was the "real" Bella.

That's probably the reason. Bella was abducted by aliens if you look into Morty's memory. Maybe they intended the Strangetown Bella to be the real Bella or maybe they just intended her to be an attention seeking Bella lookalike?

[Cidira]

I think the most likely explanation is that Maxis had no idea how much Bella-mania would follow the release of the game, and a lot of what people are ascribing to conspiracy theories can actually be more accurately explained by lack of anticipation of interest, and sloppy work.

[Dancer]

I think the most likely explanation is that Maxis had no idea how much Bella-mania would follow the release of the game, and a lot of what people are ascribing to conspiracy theories can actually be more accurately explained by lack of anticipation of interest, and sloppy work.

You go that right akatonbo. The other Bella is pretty much just a shell of the 'real' one like it shows in gali's post under Strangetown: Fake Bella. And it makes no sense that the Strangetown Bella is the Pleasantview Bella after she got abducted and thrown into the wrong neighborhood. In the picture she's looking through the small telescope just like oceanborn said. Maxis probably didn't anticipate us sim fans to create such a fuss...and that we'd be totally smart! :)

[VeryAlliegh]

What is BBS?

[MysteryCookie]

how do you find the Pleasantview bella if the strangetown bella is fake :S

[claudia777]

I brought Bella back using boolProp... there was an option on the Tombstone of L&D I think that said, Add neighbor to family, and I chose Bella Goth. Except I realised that Mortimer had remarried to Dina, Cassandra had a husband and a son, and Alexander was almost an adult, so I decided that I didn't really need Bella after all, so I killed her. Except later I wanted her back so I made Cassandra wear Bella's old clothes and changed her hair and makeup and everything to look EXACTLY like her, hahaha.

[oceanborn_SC]

I have given the purpose-less Strangetown Bella (who used to be just a walk around doll) a purpose. She will be General Buzz' new wife. She is his colleague and I guess he will bring her home from work soon. I guess they will have a kid or two together.
My computer is in for repair and I hope they won't delete everything on my computer..........

But anyway..... The Strangetown I played when I ordered in the computer was only some days old. It's worse with my story sims (I'll need to make them anew).

It's fun to read about the Bella mania but I hope (when TS 3 is released) that there will be a new mania. Maybe a new person (like for example Pascal Curious or Nervous Subject) will be the mania. Maybe they will be abducted and thrown into Pleasantview or Veronaville???
I have nothing against the Pleasantview characters but I wish maxis could have made more manias and focused as much on the three other hoods.......

[SugarRush_SC]

I love Bella. [:

After looking on SimPE I've realised that the "real" Bella Goth was actually the first sim maxis created as her character number is N001_00001.

So I have a theory they were gonna make her just your everyday normal sim and keep her married to Mortimer and make them live happily ever after and what not, but later onwards thought of a twist when they were making the sim's memorys.

Or they had the plan from the beginning.

Either way they obviously made two to mess with people's heads.

I can't be bothered to bring her back tbh, I just let Mortimer marry Dina and their both very happy living with Alexander and their beautiful daughter Molly. [:

[blitzgal]

So, I took all the Pleasantview and Strangetown people out and plopped them randomly in custom neighborhoods because I don't like the standard ones. I was using the new plasticbox neighborhood and went to impregnate an alien sim using the insiminator. Going through all the Sims in the neighborhood, I saw two Bella Goths listed! I couldn't tell which one was the "real" one though, so I didn't use her genetic material for my alien birth. I'd just read this thread though, so I knew why there were two of them in there.

[Shuriken_Thrower]

About the Bella in Strangetown, the first time I played it and moved Ajay Loner in, Bella visited him with the neighborhood welcoming. I thought, "lucky me". Well, I just re-started Strangetown and moved Ajay in again, and Bella came a visited him again.
Is it just a coincidance?

[Apis4]

I was told somewhere that if I dont want to use SimPE to get back 'Real' Bella the only way to do it is to have Don Lothario use the Gypsie Match-Maker to 'buy' a date, and after doing so enough times, he will eventually get Bella (the real one) as one of his dates, at which point he must kill her, then resurect her (since the only way to destroy her "I'm Dead" memory is to truely kill her), then she will become a perment member of his household, and thus the neighbourhood, allowing her to move back in with any family in Pleasantview, including Morty.

Is this correct? Or is there any onther NON SIMPE way to get real Bella back? Any hack/object or some such?

You see, I have tried the dating thing, and old Dons luck just aint in, he gets all sorts of dates, people from Uni, waitress' from downt town, neighbours etc etc, but not once has he even gotten some one that is even similar to Bella Goth (no raven haired honeys), so I am hoping to find another way, but not SimPE (A: I cant work it out. B: It just feels too much like cheating, I draw my line at SimPE).


Also, is there any way to bring other dead-from-installation-of-game Sims back, like Darlene Dreamer or Michael Bachelor?

[cookiecakes2]

is there a link what tells us how to put real bella back into game using sim PE

[Niai]

I think Maxis getting rid of Bella was a last minute thing, since I remember before TS2 came out there were no mention of her being absent (plus I also think they said Cassandra was a teenager so they must've scrapped their original plans).

I never really know what to do with her when I spawn her back. It's kind of fun making her gatecrash Mortimer and Dina's wedding, but the fact she seems even YOUNGER than she was during the original Sims (25 years ago?) freaks me out a little. >_>

[Misty_SC]

Awww, I have a nicely Gothy Mortimer, Bella, Cassandra and Alex in my game. The Alexander that came with the game disturbed me so I exported everyone and when I made the family in CAS I created a genetic Alexander (I was lazy and didn't add all the Goth family members I exported--maybe later, just Gunther, Cornelia, Mortimer, Bella, Cassandra and Michael Bachelor, since he's Bella's brother--in my game he's married to Dina and they're absolutely NUTS for each other). I put almost all of the Pleasantview Sims for download at our website. Syera also has a Bella Goth rumor page there (I think it was the first TS2 content ever on our site).

[pieridae]

I've never bothered with the whole real/ fake Bella thing. I like my Bella evil. If you care to read about the evil Bella's adventures you can check out my current story here at S2C (http://forums.sims2community.com/story.php?t=37850) or read the whole shebang here at Diaryland (http://thedipoteres.diaryland.com/070215_19.html).

[MissTech]

how do you find the Pleasantview bella if the strangetown bella is fake :S

I would LOVE to know that too. Never played the pre-made Sim towns until reading this thread, and the one about 'What did you do with your Pleasantview characters'. Since then I've been playing with no sightings of Bella at all. How does one locate her in Pleasantville? (Is she just roaming around and walks past houses??) Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)

[edejan]

MissTech, I'm no expert but you can find Bella walking around in Strangetown, not Pleasantville. Supposedly she's a fake Bella. the real Bella "disappeared" from Pleasantville. BTW I also started playing the Pleasantville premade sims since reading this thread and I'm having fun. BUT how do you resurrect Bella??? I tried the resurrectonomitron and she was not listed.

[Misty_SC]

The only way I know of to put the authentic Bella back into Pleasantview is to export her with SimPE and make her into a new Sim (or you can download the one I exported at www.bogsims.com ). The one in Strangetown is indeed a bit different than the Pleasantview Bella. Here are a couple of pictures for comparison:



Pleasantview Bella
http://www.bogsims.com/regina/genetics/sims/pleasantview/Goth-Bella(Bachelor)Goth-FA.jpg

Strangetown Bella
http://www.bogsims.com/regina/genetics/sims/strangetown/Goth-Bella(Strangetown)-FA.jpg


As you can see, there's not much difference but to me the Strangetown Bella looks cutsier.

[oceanborn_SC]

I hear that many people say that Pleasantview Bella is real while Strangetown Bella is fake. I think Strangetown Bella was supposed to be the real Bella with her memories wiped out after the alien abduction.
Genetically you can say that Pleasantview Bella is the "real" Bella but she is unplayable unless you resurrect her with SimPe.... And maxis meant for Pleasantview Bella to be long dead and never found again. They had no clue that the simmers were so intelligent that they could invent such a tool as simpe!
So.... I would say that Strangetown Bella is the real one. She is the one who can be played. Without Simpe or InSim Bella Goth is unplayable and that is how maxis wanted her to be.
I think maxis had to make two different character files because of the two different Bellas being in each their neighborhood. But it's a big mystery why maxis didn't clone them instead of making a totally new, "template faced" Bella. I think it's just laziness....

I don't think you'll ever be able to find the "real" Pleasantview Bella genetically related to the Goths. Strangetown Bella is the real Bella in maxis' eyes.
And for you who got Bella as a date from the gypsy lady.....
It happens. I've heard about people who get deleted and dead people as dates before even if I've never experienced it.....

[gali]

Ocean, see my pictures in the first page of this thread (took from the Enhanser) - the real Bella is the Pleasantview one, with a family tree, showing her parents, and her childs. It can't be the Strangetown Bella - unless you decide that the Strangetown one is prettier than the Pleasantview one - and it's a "legal" decision...:).

[Loncaros]

Why are you pointing out that Bella is looking through a _small_ telescope?

BUT how do you resurrect Bella??? I tried the resurrectonomitron and she was not listed.
That's probably because she isn't dead in the first place :)

[oceanborn_SC]

Ocean, see my pictures in the first page of this thread (took from the Enhanser) - the real Bella is the Pleasantview one, with a family tree, showing her parents, and her childs. It can't be the Strangetown Bella - unless you decide that the Strangetown one is prettier than the Pleasantview one - and it's a "legal" decision...:).

I know but Strangetown Bella was supposed to be the real Bella.......

[stylequeen_SC]

Bella Goth annoys the hell out of me. I found her and then I instantly wished I hadn't. Am I the only one that thinks she moans waaaay more than any other sim? She's so difficult to keep happy!

I always end up killing her off in the most gruesome way possible :P

[oceanborn_SC]

Bella Goth annoys the hell out of me. I found her and then I instantly wished I hadn't. Am I the only one that thinks she moans waaaay more than any other sim? She's so difficult to keep happy!

I always end up killing her off in the most gruesome way possible :P
How did you find her?
Do you mean Strangetown Bella???

Anyway she doesn't annoy me but I think she gets too much attention from the simmers together with all the other Pleasantviewers. What about all the others?
Maxis made two Bellas and everybody talk about real Bella and fake Bella but nobody ever mentions real Nervous and fake Nervous (yes, there are two Nervous Subjects in SimPe).

[Zora_SC]

I know but Strangetown Bella was supposed to be the real Bella.......
Strangetown Bella was just Maxis' lazy way of filling in the Goth storyline. It's not good for the game to move characters between neighborhoods like that.

Why they didn't at the very least clone her, so that Pleasantview Bella and Strangetown Bella looked the same is beyond me, but that's all it is.

Why are you pointing out that Bella is looking through a _small_ telescope?


That's probably because she isn't dead in the first place :)The importance of the small telescope is that your Sims can only get abducted with the expensive telescope. But Maxis wanted to make a story that sounded like Bella was maybe abducted, and dropped into Strangetown with no memory. So they created a picture of her looking in a telescope, killed her, and made a very poor clone in Strangetown.

Truth is, Bella is no more special then your average townie. The only reason she has a good life in my game is because a sim I do like, General Buzz, had the hots for her, lol.

No conspiracy here, folks! Keep it moving...! :P

[Loncaros]

Well in my opinion the Strangetown Bella is the real one, the Pleasantview Bella is just something you can dig out with third party hacks that apparently has to be there in order for the memories to function. Third Party tools simply can't create "proof" imo
The importance of the small telescope is that your Sims can only get abducted with the expensive telescope. But Maxis wanted to make a story that sounded like Bella was maybe abducted, and dropped into Strangetown with no memory. So they created a picture of her looking in a telescope, killed her, and made a very poor clone in Strangetown.
interesting, so since you've apparently controlled her, what "Memories" does she possess in Strangetown?
Does she remember being taught to walk / talk?

[Zora_SC]

Well in my opinion the Strangetown Bella is the real one, the Pleasantview Bella is just something you can dig out with third party hacks that apparently has to be there in order for the memories to function. Third Party tools simply can't create "proof" imoWell, you're right, it does all comes down to your opinion. :shrug:

Do you consider "real" Bella to be what Maxis wants you to believe is real Bella, and the Bella that fits in with the storyline? If so, then Strangetown Bella's your girl. But if you think the genetic mother of Cassandra & Alexander Goth is the real Bella, then secret Pleasantview Bella is for you. :P

interesting, so since you've apparently controlled her, what "Memories" does she possess in Strangetown?
Does she remember being taught to walk / talk?
I'd have to check when I get home, but from what I can remember, she had zero memories, not even learning to walk and talk via a mystery sim like most townies.

[oceanborn_SC]

Well, you're right, it does all comes down to your opinion. :shrug:

Do you consider "real" Bella to be what Maxis wants you to believe is real Bella, and the Bella that fits in with the storyline? If so, then Strangetown Bella's your girl. But if you think the genetic mother of Cassandra & Alexander Goth is the real Bella, then secret Pleasantview Bella is for you. :P


I'd have to check when I get home, but from what I can remember, she had zero memories, not even learning to walk and talk via a mystery sim like most townies.

I think she has the same memories as all other townies. She also has a memory of going to college like the other townies.
By the way, she also has a biography!
It says that she likes golf and miniature golf.....

[Loncaros]

I'd have to check when I get home, but from what I can remember, she had zero memories, not even learning to walk and talk via a mystery sim like most townies.
actually walking/ talking for all premade sims is done by actual parents for me, not mystery sims. These parents also all died later in the memories.

But if you think the genetic mother of Cassandra & Alexander Goth is the real Bella, then secret Pleasantview Bella is for you Is this information you have to extract via a non-maxis tool?

[Lemon&Lime]

I've heard of people ressurecting dead and disapeering Sims, but I have no idea how.

[oceanborn_SC]

Strangetown Bella was just Maxis' lazy way of filling in the Goth storyline. It's not good for the game to move characters between neighborhoods like that.

Why they didn't at the very least clone her, so that Pleasantview Bella and Strangetown Bella looked the same is beyond me, but that's all it is.

The importance of the small telescope is that your Sims can only get abducted with the expensive telescope. But Maxis wanted to make a story that sounded like Bella was maybe abducted, and dropped into Strangetown with no memory. So they created a picture of her looking in a telescope, killed her, and made a very poor clone in Strangetown.

Truth is, Bella is no more special then your average townie. The only reason she has a good life in my game is because a sim I do like, General Buzz, had the hots for her, lol.

No conspiracy here, folks! Keep it moving...! :P

haha.... I've had Bella married to Buzz before but now when his wife Lyla is resurrected I think I'll marry Bella to Tank instead. Tank is an adult now and he is in love with Bella. In my game Strangetown Bella is just another normal sim, not related to the Goths. She's actually just a wannabe Bella Goth. lol.
Even if maxis meant that she would be the real Bella I cannot imagine her as the one since she has no memories of her family.
When I play her I don't get a "Goth Family" feeling...... She's younger than Cassandra and it's impossible that she's her mother.
I was just saying that even if Strangetown Bella can never be Bella Goth in our eyes she's still meant to be Bella (by maxis).
It's just a badly done job.

[Zora_SC]

actually walking/ talking for all premade sims is done by actual parents for me, not mystery sims. These parents also all died later in the memories.Yes, premade sims have memories from actual parents, but townies get the memories by mystery sims. Strangetown Bella, in the most technical sense is nothing more than a townie! But she has absolutely no memories, neither of her actual parents OR of mystery townies. She starts fresh.

Is this information you have to extract via a non-maxis tool?It's information that is confirmed with a non-Maxis tool (SimPE) but even if you compare Cassandra to both Bellas, she much more resembles Pleasantview Bella.

Go into Pleasantview, and compare Bella's thumbnail in the Goth family tree to the Bella you find in Strangetown. They are not the same.

Even if maxis meant that she would be the real Bella I cannot imagine her as the one since she has no memories of her family.
When I play her I don't get a "Goth Family" feeling...... She's younger than Cassandra and it's impossible that she's her mother. I was just saying that even if Strangetown Bella can never be Bella Goth in our eyes she's still meant to be Bella (by maxis).
It's just a badly done job.I agree, it was a sloppy job on Maxis part. They probably figured nobody would work SO hard on reuniting the Goth family like people have done. Oh well! She makes a good wife for Buzz. In fact, since he's so much older than Bella, the Grunt family is almost like my own personal Strangetown's version of the Goths. They're the largest and richest family in the neighborhood, and nobody really likes them. :P

[Lavinne S. P. Depardieu]

When Ophelia became an adult in my game, i moved her to another house (but i kept her in strangetown), then the neighbors went there to meet her, aand, with 'em, there was Bella Goth, and as all of you said, the strangetown bella is fake, then.. i don't know LMAO
•Edit:
And in SimPE, she (i don't know if it's the fake or the real) appears alive oO''

[gali]

I have a now a hood, with all The Sims 1 families.

I enjoy for sure to play the real Goths again. Bella and Mortie had only Cassie, but Bella was pregnant, and obviously had a boy, who is now a toddler. And I can say that Mortimer, Cassandra, and Alex, are very pretty sims. Mortie and Bella have a Family Aspiration.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/gali123/oldgoth.jpg

[Loncaros]

I can only see very small differences between the two Bellas tbh

[logynomy]

It's just Maxis a-messin' with all your minds, folks.

[Pandrito]

I think that the real Bella is the one from Pleasantview. She had a family, got abducted, died, the end.
But then why is there another Bella at Strangetown? Well, its because someone at Maxis thought that it would be really cool to see Bella somewhere else walking like a lost ghost.

[Lemon&Lime]

I think there is a Strangetown Bella because the Strangetown storyline is people being abducted by aliens - and Bella was supposed to be abducted by aliens. Which is the generally accepted theory.

[tru0001]

Bella Goth in Pleasantview is the real one but supposingly maxis deleted her with the IamDead memory and then made a poor clone in Strangetown to spicen things up...

The only way you know ST Bella is a fake apart from the faces is the pose... Bella in PV looks up and ST Bella looks at you....

[Aryxa]

I now have three Bellas in my game... Strangetown Bella, a clone of Strangetown Bella who's heading a legacy in a custom hood, and Pleasantview Bella who is living in Don's old house with Alexander and Cassandra. Which one is the real one? I think if we're going plot-wise, ST Bella is because that's where she was supposed to end up after her abduction. But family wise, PV Bella has all her family ties with Cassie and Alex, whereas ST Bella doesn't. And Custom Hood Bella is a big fat fraud ;)

[cosmough]

How about replacing the fake bella in strangetown with the real bella (using SimPE)? that way u can get rid of the fake bella and see the real bella in strangetown.

[cosmough]

maybe the reason of making the fake bella with no memories, family trees, etc is to show that the real bella's memory has been completely wiped out after alien abduction!

[erinmblair]

Maybe she was cloned by Don Lothario or the Caliente sisters? And then they hide or killed her somewhere in Pleasantville?

Gali, I LOVE your Goth picture! :D Where can I download them? :D

~Erin

[Jenjen1000]

I would LOVE to know that too. Never played the pre-made Sim towns until reading this thread, and the one about 'What did you do with your Pleasantview characters'. Since then I've been playing with no sightings of Bella at all. How does one locate her in Pleasantville? (Is she just roaming around and walks past houses??) Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)


I would also LOVE to know how to do that too! Can anyone help?!

[Slytherin-Girl]

Well, I (thorough NO cheating whatsoever) found the infamous Bella in Pleasantview.

I had my secret Santa Sim call up the matchmaker for a date and went to grab a snack when it was at the "choose male/female" date bit. I left it and when I came back it was at the "How much money" part. So i gave her the max amount and here's what popped down. (My sim's turns ons are vampirism and formal wear by the way)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/hikari-schezar-bloom/snapshot_7460c6f2_1464c9b8.jpg

Screengrab of whole thing, see her name is there and everything.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a286/hikari-schezar-bloom/yherhb.jpg

[tubegal1988]

im still very confused.. why is bella goth sooooo special? does she have like super magical flying powers? i dont get why she is so special!

[Game Shark]

im still very confused.. why is bella goth sooooo special? does she have like super magical flying powers? i dont get why she is so special!
Bella Goth is a part of a mystery in Pleasantview/Strangetown. She disappeared on Don's lot. They say Don Lothario was the last person to see her alive and the Caliente sisters hated her. But no one in Plesantview knows where she is. The Goth family has a memory of Bella being abducted, but she has disappeared.

In Strangetown, there is a townie named Bella Goth who looks like Bella, but has no memories. This Bella may have meant to be the real Bella who was abducted and have all her memories wiped.

You can pretty much see her everywhere in the game. On the back of milk cartons, in pictures, even in the hot air balloon neighborhood decoration.

[Lemon&Lime]

I think that the real Bella is the one from Pleasantview. She had a family, got abducted, died, the end.
But then why is there another Bella at Strangetown? Well, its because someone at Maxis thought that it would be really cool to see Bella somewhere else walking like a lost ghost.

Bella in Pleasantview is not dead. Check the Goth family tree - when a Sim dies, their picture turns grey - and Bella's picture is still in colour. It is possible to 'extract' her again from the place that Maxis buried her file.

Bella is a very youthful great-grandparent on my game. :laugh:

Mortimer - Bella
l
Alexander - Brandice
l
Lancelot - Jayne
l
Liam


Edit: Is there any pictures of Bella in family albums? Apart from (I think) one in Don Lothario's?

[X-Lea-X]

Pleasantview Bella is real, Strangetown Bella is fake, one of the ways to get her back is summon her, kill her, then ressurect her. Never move her in and then save the lot, she'll be a ghost when you come back and then 'OMG OH NO HELP!1!!' no more bella. Never waste your time trying to find out the big 'mystery' about Bella, it's not worth it, nothing special is going to happen if you reunite Bella with Mortimer.
That's all I have to say.

I agree! I mean whats the point you find her then play her and? Nothing special thats what!

[livingstonekat]

In Pleasantview I just moved in Bella to a family's home and when she moved in she brought $3,000,000! :dumbfunny I was gobsmacked.

[Mayo550]

Yeah how do you find Bella?

[X_Lea_X]

Some say something like look at her picture, then drink some coffee ect. There is one way to reunite Bella with the Goth's go and mod the sims and look what is HP's popular download;)

[SIMposiast_SC]

This is the story I made up about Strangetown Bella. She's NOT the Pleasantview Bella. Instead, she is a Goth by blood. If you look up the Goth family tree, you'll see Victor had two children, Gunther and Frida. I imagined that Frida had some daughters (unnamed due to laziness on my part) and one of these daughters had a fling with Simis Bachelor (maybe at Mortimer's wedding?). This fling resulted in her having a daughter who looks amazingly like Mortimer's new bride, once she grows up.

Of course it makes no sense that Strangetown Bella would be the "real" Bella Goth. She's much too young to be Cassandra and Alexander's mother. But I could see her mother maybe naming her after her cousin's wife just to honor her, and the child's resemblance to her supposed cousin-in-law would not become so obvious until she grew up.

Anyway, that's my story and it fits reasonably well. I don't pretend it's canon, but it gives Strangetown Bella a decent backstory and explains why she resembles Pleasantview Bella without looking exactly like her.

[X_Lea_X]

I'm not sure but is bella suppose to have memories? Because when I brought her back she only had Alex got an A+

[simsample]

When you resurrect Pleasantview Bella all of her memories and personality points are gone. You need to correct that in SimPE.

[p$ycho$immer]

This is slightly random (xD), but when you resurrect Darlene Dreamer she's the same way. NO memories, NO personality points.... grr. It's annoying. xP I need to find a way to fix her.

Back on topic, I'm thinking now that I may resurrect Pleasantview Bella after all. xD That is... if I didn't already marry Morty and Dina.... crap. >.> Oh well. She can live with Cassandra and Alex and be a home-maker with an aspiration change. *cackles with delight* :dumbfunny

[X_Lea_X]

Thanks simsample but is there a way to add memories?

[Ghost sdoj]

In SimPe you can create new memories. Back up the neighborhood first, because you are editing the neighborhood memory package and if you make a mistake you can damage your game. (And backups are handy anyway.)

Then use the sim browser to open the sim, and go to the "more" tab to open memories.
(You -can- just open the neighborhood memory if you want to do it that way, but doing it from the sim makes it easier to keep track of whose memories you are working with.) Find the blue "Create" at the bottom, click it, and then change your new entry as needed. You can also add badges, tokens, and inventory there.

(Although it seems to me that if inventory is stored in memory it is kind of silly that they forget that they already have something and will ask for it again. )

[X_Lea_X]

Thanks sidneydoj, I always have a back-up by the way;) I just put it Bella met aliens and pretended the aliens whipped the rest of her memory.

Yeah how do you find Bella?

You use SimPe. Here's the tutorial.
Tutorial (http://tg.sims2techguide.net/guide.php?g=24)

[StrawberryKisses]

I myself would love to reunite Bella and Mortimer. But ive only found her in Strangetown. So where exactly is she in Pleasantview? How do I find her?

[simsample]

I myself would love to reunite Bella and Mortimer. But ive only found her in Strangetown. So where exactly is she in Pleasantview? How do I find her?

http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Bella_Goth
http://community.livejournal.com/thesims2/1009185.html

[BillyDee]

Unfortunately, the Strangeview Bella goth is not "THE" Bella Goth. Apart from the fact she has no memories of The Goths, her parents, her brother or her "old life", they are facially slightly different, and plus if Bella in Strangeview ages, the one in the Goth Family Tree in Pleasantview does not.

I have three reasons behind the "Bella Mania"

1. Eaxis needed something to get us excited about Sims 2
2. When testing the alien abductions, they used Bella as the first one and it went wrong. Instead of admitting defeat, they wrote her disappearance into Sims 2 narrative
3. Eaxis wanted to encourage fan-fic and imagination, and so used Bella as a way of cultivating that, given her popularity from Sims1 (my friend David once made a video of Bella Goth slapping people in Sims 1 while he sang "Bella Takes No Pooh!" in a really scary and shrill voice)

[BAH_SC]

(my friend David once made a video of Bella Goth slapping people in Sims 1 while he sang "Bella Takes No Pooh!" in a really scary and shrill voice)

rofl!:clap:

[charlie-chan_SC]

It's funny that after I read this thread I saw the fake Bella Goth walking past Chloe Wilsonoff's house. They spoke and now Bella can be contacted via the telephone.

[BillyDee]

I also have a theory that the Bella Goth portrait, which is described as being by an "unknown artist" was painted by Darren Dreamer - maybe as a way of impressing Cassandra? After all, you see him painting a picture of her in the storyboards....why cant he have painted the one of her mother?

[Petchy]

Or maybe, He painted the picture to impress Cassandra, as you said, But he found the whole Family Distraught and upset so he decided to get rid of the painting as fast as he could so he sold it as an "Unknown Artist"...

OR! It was a self-portrait that Bella Painted (She was good at creativity in TS1 IIRC) and then the Goths sold it when they were upset.

...
The list continues! :lol:

[Mr.D_SC]

@simsample:Oh, thanks you so much, I'm really need it ^^

[HyjaClinton]

I'd like to call to everyone's attention that...

Bella Goth's dress is NOT in CAS? Am I just stating the obvious or is this a breakthrough?
Or is there just something I missed?

[x-tashi-x_SC]

I'd like to call to everyone's attention that...

Bella Goth's dress is NOT in CAS? Am I just stating the obvious or is this a breakthrough?
Or is there just something I missed?

Well, bella's dress isn't REALLY a dress, it's a top and matching skirt, and if you find the top bit in the top section of every day (lol that sounded weird) and find the matching skirt in the bottoms bit and wear them they pretty much go together

[x-tashi-x_SC]

I don't know if anyone typed this... but it says in cassandra, alex and mortimers's memories bella goth was abducted. Dina wanted to get with mortimer. Her and Nina's ancestors are aliens she was last seen on don's balcony, with a telescope. If you put it together...

[HyjaClinton]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
okay.

[Destinita]

It's just Maxis a-messin' with all your minds, folks.

Yeah. Makes us feel like we have been tricked by them like how we trick our Sims...

-gasp-

[Kusama]

Sometimes I envy those people who were playing TS1. You know the whole story... :)

[Charley-x]

kusama, i 'm sure somewhere by you would still sell the original sims,
the video game shops where i live still sell it ( usually in the second hand bit)
:)

[Kusama]

Well, yeah, in my country you can find some late stayed reliquiae. But I'm not really planning to play TS1, when I'm playing TS2 and when there's TS3 comming out. :)
And overall, I'm not so in that stories, just for the hell of it wondering. Especially when a few people were talking about a nostalgia. :D

[Destinita]

TS1 is fun but really boring after months of using cheats. Bah. Loved the cheat that you could control the time -heehee-

Mortimer, Bella and Goth under one roof. No drama though..

[Eat_ToAst]

(my friend David once made a video of Bella Goth slapping people in Sims 1 while he sang "Bella Takes No Pooh!" in a really scary and shrill voice)
LMAOROFL
I always laugh when I read that :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[melethana]

I just read this thread, and realized that I couldv'e gotten the real Bella (the mother or Cassandra and Alexander in the family tree) to appear in my household using the Tomstone of Life & Death. Argh! I have already made a CAS Bella, and she and Mortimer already have twins! I know that I can reset that hood, but it would feel like I was killing the babies. Argh! :doh:

[Clear]

:]
I know a girl who knows a girl, who knows a girl is name "Bella Fake".

[Valerie_SC]

Aliens do no harm; after an abduction they are always returned.. Ungentely but they are still back home. And can females be abducted :o?

Valerie :duck:

[HyjaClinton]

Oohz, Don Lothario remembers that Bella Goth rejected him for make-out.

:O

[JanePstar]

I've never seen her :( Any places where I can go snoop and snatch her up in a brown bag?

[Kusama]

Females can be abducted, Valerie. I played long long ago and my female sim got abducted. I didn't want to her to have a child, so restarted my game :P

[melethana]

Aliens do no harm; after an abduction they are always returned.. Ungentely but they are still back home. And can females be abducted :o?

Valerie :duck:

Females can get abducted, but only adult males get alien pregnant by abdution. Without cheats, the only way for a female to have an alien baby is to "try for baby" with an alien, or if she herself is an alien.

[slipknot93]

You can use tombstone of life and death to get Bella back, I did try it out, , she had no memories but was in the family tree, but I didn't save after getting her.

[charlie-chan_SC]

I found the fake Bella in Strangetown so I've had her marry Pascal Curious. They've had a son together called Mortimer..

[southy]

I've found Bella (as an NPC?) when I took Don Lothario to that gothy nightclub in the Downtown, on an outing with Cassandra and Nina >:). It seems like nobody has any relationship status with her, but when I made Don cheat on Cassandra with Nina in the photobooth, Bella got angry at Don and Nina (Mortimer was there and he did too)... So maybe there is a hidden relationship with this mysterious Bella and the neighborhood sims...?

[DoAHeroes]

Question:

Is there any truth to the rumor that if Cassandra Goth gets abducted, Bella comes back? I doubt it, but I can't find seem to find out either way.

[melethana]

If Cassandra were to get abducted, she would disappear from the lot for a brief time, her needs would go wildly up and down, and then she would return to the lot with a "met aliens" memory. It would not bring back Bella.

[NekoGirl]

I'd like to call to everyone's attention that...

Bella Goth's dress is NOT in CAS? Am I just stating the obvious or is this a breakthrough?
Or is there just something I missed?


I think its in there, but as a top/skirt combo, not a full dress.

For Bella, I believe she is one of my favorite pre-made sims after Cassandra, I always bring her back using SimPE & boolProp, once Alexander is finished with college & ready to marry Lucy Burb. ^^

I do give her memories, but I really just copy Mortimer's in SimPE, replace Mortimer's "Bella Got Abducted" memory with Cassandra's version of it, (so it shows as as bad memory) remove the Career memories, the "burned this dinner", add the toddler memories with Cassandra (Walk, Talk, Potty Trained), remove the first two Alexander toddler memories (he shows Bella taught him one of them, but Mortimer's shows he taught him all three, I fix that too), change the childhood memories correctly (like "Snuck out with Bella" to "With Mortimer", & "Homework Help" from Gunther to Simis Bachelor (Bella's father), & things like that.

I feel like Bella had a career at some point between Sims 1 & 2, but I know she did not have a career in The Sims 1 when we first met her, so I portray her that way in my edition of Pleasantview's next generation. ^^

[meggie272]

Bella Goth came back from Strangetown to welcome Alexander to college in the cinematic that happens when your sim becomes a young adult.

Mortimer was dead by this point. It completely freaked me out. I was like "AAAAAAARGH it's Bella!"

[miahaglund4]

I've searched for the "sims-1-families for sims two" I know saw them a while ago but they seems to be gone... Can anybody give me a direction, maybee even a link? Because I would like to try it out now, Bye fro now Mia

[edejan]

I've searched for the "sims-1-families for sims two" I know saw them a while ago but they seems to be gone... Can anybody give me a direction, maybee even a link? Because I would like to try it out now, Bye fro now Mia

Do a thorough search of the WCIF boards. I know these links have been given there.

Edit: Dang, I just did a search and can't find the right terms but I know it's there. I'll keep looking.

Here's what I was looking for:

http://forums.sims-community.com/showthread.php?t=64293&highlight=original+sims

[KyleTheArtist]

I'll probably get rocks thrown at, but Bella never really interested me... So what? lol omg she disappeared. I never tried resurrecting her or whatever, because the Goths family never interested me that much. Even in TS1. I always moved them out, and remodeled their house, and moved my own Simies in. I'd probably attempt and get her back, but!from what i understand she was last seen at Don's house and that Casanova womanizer never interested me either. he is still in maxis stuff. Just like Caliente sisters and Goths.

[christmas fear]

bella had no right looking through that telescope!
she got abducted at her own house because you can only get abducted with the expensive telescope. unless she was supposed to be at dons house but thats a continuity issue.
i've always been a fan of the goth family since ts1. i hate don lothario. mortimer should be furious with him and not be in love with the golddigger associated with him, as her sister is too. the whole storyline thing is messed up but in a cool 'soap opera' kind of way i love it.

[Ghost sdoj]

EA is not known for continuity. The suggestion is that she really was at Don Lothario's house, especially as they are both Romance sims. (Although I suppose that might be another explanation of why Mortimer hates to see people looking through a telescope... :lol)

But I don't play other people's stories, not even Maxis. I make my own.

[Emma,]

Well, I guess we'll find out more when The Sims 3 comes out. Apparently Mortimer and Bella were besties as children.

[ranabluu_SC]

I personally think the game develpers goofed. Then to add hype to the game they created this story and of course us being the fans we are took it and ran with it. If you think about how they have the story line and game play. We really shouldn't be able to alter stuff until they let us. That's mostly why the created the call the grim reaper and stuff like that. Anyway the "real" Bella is definitely in ST because that's the storyline but the "original" Beall is PV. I had some mod that allowed me to summon her in PV and I did and Dina had a fear to see Bella as a Zombie. It's all hype. I like Bella but I can take her or leave her. I don't even play the Goths.

[Emma,]

Well, we know that she's in the Hot Air Balloon or abducted.

Something to do with the sky.

Also, the guy that she ran away with is in the gondala.

[71michelle]

I read this thread and realised that after two computers, way too many expansion packs and years of playing sims, i have never once seen either Bella's! So i went to ST and sent Ajay Loner out to find her. Took him a couple of days but he eventually pinned her in a store. (I'm too embarassed to describe how excited i was.)
One thing i noticed was that she had a gold ring on the first finger of her right hand, and a blue ring on the pinkie of her left hand - but when she moved in with Ajay they disappeared!
O Lord, what does it all mean?? lol

[Lexie 123]

I read this thread and realised that after two computers, way too many expansion packs and years of playing sims, i have never once seen either Bella's! So i went to ST and sent Ajay Loner out to find her. Took him a couple of days but he eventually pinned her in a store. (I'm too embarassed to describe how excited i was.)
One thing i noticed was that she had a gold ring on the first finger of her right hand, and a blue ring on the pinkie of her left hand - but when she moved in with Ajay they disappeared!
O Lord, what does it all mean?? lol

oooh, maybe the aliens gave it to her. I hope the ST Bella is the actual Bella, 'cause she's way prettier.. lol I have read some of you have re united the goths and like, Alexander hugged Bella and stuffs, but was that for the ST or PV Bella? so all I have to do is use Tombstone of L&D and add her to the family?

I am obsessed with Bella, she is my favriot sim ever... Has anyone made a Bella in CAS or something or extracted her, and uploaded it? "Cause she' be perfect for my stories.. Is it possible to make copies of maxis sims?
ps. Why is the word maxis green? lmao

[Ghost sdoj]

PV Bella appears in the initial cutscene if you send Alexander to college. Adding her to the family with the Tombstone of L&D won't work.

You can use SimPe to extract Bella from Strangetown if you want to. There are several tutorials on how to extract an in-game sim.

(And the word "maxis" was probably green because you had done a search including it, so it is showing you all the places where the keyword you used is matching. :))

[71michelle]

No ST Bella wasn't real Bella, she looked nothing like Cassandra or Alexander, in fact she was 'blank pretty' to me, and she had no substantial memories. Maybe she's Bella's love child, or an alien clone, and got dumped out of the spaceship when in crashed in ST, or maybe a Bella stalker who was copying Bella because Bella was famous for disappearing and. . .and. . . .
lol

[melethana]

PV Bella is the real one. If you add her back to the Goth family using the Tombtone of L&D she is the genetic mother of Alexander & Cassandra. Anyone wanting a Bella clone, I like the one here http://nene.modthesims2.com/download.php?t=79053

[Piyokochanxoxo]

It's fun to read about the Bella mania but I hope (when TS 3 is released) that there will be a new mania. Maybe a new person (like for example Pascal Curious or Nervous Subject) will be the mania. Maybe they will be abducted and thrown into Pleasantview or Veronaville???
I have nothing against the Pleasantview characters but I wish maxis could have made more manias and focused as much on the three other hoods.......

Isn't Sims 3 supposed to be like, a prequel to Sims 1 in terms of storyline? o_o

[DDTKID]

I was told somewhere that if I dont want to use SimPE to get back 'Real' Bella the only way to do it is to have Don Lothario use the Gypsie Match-Maker to 'buy' a date, and after doing so enough times, he will eventually get Bella (the real one) as one of his dates, at which point he must kill her, then resurect her (since the only way to destroy her "I'm Dead" memory is to truely kill her), then she will become a perment member of his household, and thus the neighbourhood, allowing her to move back in with any family in Pleasantview, including Morty.

Is this correct? Or is there any onther NON SIMPE way to get real Bella back? Any hack/object or some such?

You see, I have tried the dating thing, and old Dons luck just aint in, he gets all sorts of dates, people from Uni, waitress' from downt town, neighbours etc etc, but not once has he even gotten some one that is even similar to Bella Goth (no raven haired honeys), so I am hoping to find another way, but not SimPE (A: I cant work it out. B: It just feels too much like cheating, I draw my line at SimPE).


Also, is there any way to bring other dead-from-installation-of-game Sims back, like Darlene Dreamer or Michael Bachelor?

yes their is a way if you have UNI use the paranormal career reawrd unlock and their you go

[Ghost sdoj]

There was a painting from Simslice that would summon Bella, but the one in Pleasantview wasn't intended to be brought back so she is not a complete sim. (Neither are the other "originally dead" base game sims, although the Tricou family from Nightlife were intended to be brought back. That was why there are some illegitimate Tricou teenagers ready to go to college and start filling those "Resurrect ___" wants.)

[killfire3_SC]

lol....I found Bella Goth at Strangetown....made a ugly sim marry her and than I started a Vampire sim and took Bella Goth away from that ugly sim and married her. Than...I played until she is an elder and died...leaving with 3 childrens

[xxGuyxx]

Not sure if a thread like this was posted before, but Bella Goth is one of the more interesting characters (if not the most interesting) in TS2. Post any theories here, whether they be perfectly reasonable, or over the top.

My theory is Mortimer is an alien, and Bella was learning too much about alien secrets, so he had her abducted and brainwashed.

[Ghost sdoj]

The official Bella Goth thread used to be stickied, but it's here: http://modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=334954

[Elvie]

Strange, but I think that Bella's story is no mystery. Look at the relationship scores and memories of tha Goths - they remember Bella, but nobody has relationships with her! Her icon is coloured, which suggests that she's still alive, but there's no simple way to bring her back into the family... I think that Maxis people just made her abducted by the aliens ON HER LOT, and AFTER SHE CAME BACK, they just sent her into the simbin, and deleted. I tried this with one family - I deleted the wife this way (without the abduction thing, though), and she still was in the family-tree, with her picture coloured, as if she were alive, but nobody had any relationships with her.

And the picture of Bella stargazing at Don's lot is just made for storytelling. Maxis people should've be a bit more careful and put the expensive telescope, at least.

[xxGuyxx]

I'm thinking that either

A) Bella is really dead. It shows her as alive in her family tree, but when I tried to summon her it said she died on another lot.

B) She got abducted, and there was an accident that resulted in Bella being cloned. One Bella died, the other is roaming Strangetown, and either suffered amnesia, or is the clone and didn't get the real Bella's memories. Just look at the evidence! We all know she got abducted, and the game doesn't say what happened after that, but there was a UFO crash landing in Strangetown, and there is a Bella Goth in Strangetown, and there is an alien living there. Then again, maybe EA put the crashed UFO and extra Bella there just to mess with us :jest:

[Maranatah]

I brought Bella back to her family by summoning her,making her selectable, moving her out and then back in. Before that she walked around Pleasantview like a townie. When I looked her memories, she had memory of Cassandra left at the altar and Bella wasn't even in the family when that happened! I think that maxis people just made her as a townie.

[starmeat]

Maybe because I only started playing the game this June (though my very first time was in January 2006; abandoned it after that thanks to a slow computer, came back and found all the EPs and SPs for cheaper), but Bella never interested me. I don't see why the "mystery" is such a big deal.

I do recall playing HP's Megahood sometime over the summer. Just once, I spotted Bella Goth in Belladonna Cove and brought her back. That was great for Mortimer, but she's boring. They had a third kid (baby daughter) and moved, but I deleted the family after that.

I brought Bella back to her family by summoning her,making her selectable, moving her out and then back in. Before that she walked around Pleasantview like a townie. When I looked her memories, she had memory of Cassandra left at the altar and Bella wasn't even in the family when that happened! I think that maxis people just made her as a townie.

When my Sims are in university or at school and someone dies, they still get those memories.

[Maranatah]

starmeat, yeah I know about that memory thing. Someone said somewhere that when they brought Bella back,she didn't have any memories about her family so I just told that in my game she did have those. :)

[starmeat]

starmeat, yeah I know about that memory thing. Someone said somewhere that when they brought Bella back,she didn't have any memories about her family so I just told that in my game she did have those. :)

It's been said (also on the first page of this thread) that Pleasantview has the real Bella, while the Strangetown one will have no memories and is just a fake (and a clone).

[Skarlin]

Yes, Pleasantview Bella is the real one while Strangetown Bella was MEANT to be real but isn't, either way. And I'd heard somewhere that Maxis actually goofed up when making her and the Goth family, so to fix the issue they came up with this story.

Also, I don't think the sim in the balloon is Bella at all. Just a random sim (goes back to Hot Date in Sims 1). Maybe I'm wrong, but it's just something I think I remember being confirmed.

[Vettias]

So Far I have this information:

- Bella WAS abducted by aliens. However only Mortimer has the memory of this occurance.
- She could of NOT been abducted on Don's roof because he does not have the memory of it happening. What is also strange is that Cassandra and Alexander don't have the memory of being abducted.
- currentlty looking for more information
- Bella may of had some sort of romantic interest with Don Lothario. In Don's memories, it shows him being rejected for a Make-out with Bella Goth.
- In Bella's relationship files with others - only 5 (actual people - that means anyone that isnt an NPC or a townie) people appear: Alexander Goth, Cassandra Goth, Michael Bachelor, Jocasta Bachelor, and Simis Bachelor. So we cannot tell if there was a romantic interest between Bella and Don.
- I just found this out - When I was browsing the 'uneditable sims' section, It showed all of the dead sims in Pleasantview, along with the Grimreaper and 'Hula Zombie'. The last name is 'Default', and that is where the dead sims are. This could possibly mean Bella Goth is dead.
- It appears that when I view Bella Goth's memories, she has the 'I am Dead' token. This is more proof that Bella Goth, could be dead.
- However proof that goes to that means that she is not dead is that her tombstone returns back to the lot he/she lives on when he/she dies on another lot.

[perihelion]

I was never interested in the Goths in TS1, but now this thread has piqued my interest I'm going to just fire up, SimPE, delete the fake Bella from Strangetown and get the real one on an empty lot somewhere in Pleasantview.

So far I've only had a crack at playing the Pleasant family by storyline (It's HARD! Lilith actually ran away at one point.) but the Goths are going to get a visit from me. :D

[Lavaster]

omg in the creativity place of MTS, I posted a whole article thing about Bella Goth! :O

And a few hours later, I find this thread. >.<

[perihelion]

I had some fun with Pleasantview Bella!

First I created a male Sim, maxed out his gardening and robotics skills, then made him a wizard using a hacked potion. Then he built himself a Servo named Clank who also drank the hacked potion (did you know Servos can learn magic too? They can!) Then together they used the Tombstone to summon Bella, who unfortunately has no memories, skills or personality traits, just like Strangetown Bella. She is awfully pretty, though. Here's the funny part, though: she had a want to flirt with soemone, so I made her flirt with Clank. She turned and looked directly at the camera (I love it when sims do that!) and gave me a look that said "you want me to come on to a robot?" but then charmed him up proper. They're quite good friends now.

I'll reunite Bella with Mortimer eventually...

[999rozes]

Pleasantview Bella is awesome haha. I just modified her in SimPE. Btw does anyone know Bella's personality points from the Sims 1?

I wanna modify her with that and possibly make her a townie XD

[Astrognash]

Going in CAS order from top to bottom, her points are:
7
3
5
3
7

[Deestar]

Also in Sims 1 she has been characterized as a " Family" Sim even though Aspirations as such did not exist in Sims 1.

[Astrognash]

Although, in TS2, she is, in fact, a romance sim. Which, based on the fact that no one has any memories of her cheating on Mortimer with them, means that Mortimer was probably a very "lucky" guy, if you catch my drift.

[Deestar]

I play the Uber-Megahood with a fully restored Bella thanks to HystericalParoxysm and Mixreality and she has never even cheated on Mortimer once, although once he died she did start dating Malcolm Landgraab. Actually in my Ts2 game I have never had a problem with a Romance Sim cheating even with ACR once they get over that initial fear of being married or engaged- and they make great parents in comparison to my family Sims- as in the kid actually gets fed, changed and put in it's crib instead of on the kitchen floor. I really enjoy playing Morty and Bella though I do tend to age Bella up so that is about 13-15 Sim days from being an elder so that she is younger than Mortimer but older than her daughter. Gives her enough time to fill her LTW, but doesn't leave the household with drastic age differences.

[Ghost sdoj]

In Sims 1 she was a good mom to Cassandra. Mortimer was the one who had half the neighborhood hating him because there was an interaction that involved teasing a sim with a sock puppet, and it was Mortimer's absolute favorite interaction. (After the neighborhood was expanded and the Goth Sr. family was introduced, even his own parents hated him in my game!) But even in Sims 1, she was rather willing to move in with someone else. (Mortimer would use the sock puppet on her, too.)

[Hydroxide]

lol. Apparently Mortimer was a total jerk in TS1. I can't remember that now since it was so long ago, but I knew all he was good for in TS2 was his money.

Has anybody else realised that the Goths are the only family to have been in the game series right from the start?

[Deestar]

I am pretty sure that the Newbies (Brandi's Parents) were in the game from the start (Bob and Betty were the tutorial family), and the Pleasants are a bin family as is Bella's brother Michael. The Landgraabs were mentioned in passing (a park in Downtown is named after a Landgraab) but never actually appeared until the first Sims console game. I didn't particularly like Mortimer in Sims 1, I only really got to like him in the console version of the game. In terms of the Goths I mostly like Bella and Mortimers parents Cornelia and Gunther.

[Kailacat]

This isn't more about Bella, but about the Goths - I wish they would add a TS3 expansion pack about the return of the Goths, and it's about Alexander or Cassandra or some of their kids. It might actually make me buy TS3. I'm looking forward to bringing Bella back with Boolprop too. And never, ever leaving the lot.

[christmas fear]

the strange town bella isn't the "real" pleasantview bella. they can't move bella from pleasantview to strangetown without breaking the game, so they remade her. but not in the same way..

they gave her maxis default face template #1. i guess that's why she's considered 'prettier' but i like the pleasantview bella a lot more because her face isn't a template.. it's much more unique.

[CrazyVivian]

I love mysteries, and the mystery of Bella Goth is one of my favourites. Is it true about that rumour that when you put up that Bella painting in your house, she'll come?

[Hanhula]

When I was looking for pics to use in a Sims 2 Magazine that I'm making for a school project, I went on the paintings folder in the Sims 2 folders in collections.
I saw all the pictures I had put in there - plus a few extra?
There's a picture of Bella! (and some other random things - a piano, the Goth house, and some r/l stuff).
I now have a theory for Bella.
She was abducted at the Goth home, and in the spaceship, the aliens took photos of her. One of them locked her in a room, wiped her memories, then painted a picture of her as a keepsake. Then they cloned the memory-less Bella and threw the clone down to Strangetown.
The reason Bella can be summoned by the Tombstone of L&D?
The aliens like Pleasantview, so they fly over there more. If you save the game with Bella there, and leave, when you come back she'll be a ghost - because the Aliens killed her for escaping them!

(I have had hardly any sleep for the last 3 days, and I'm hyper on Eclipse mints and chocolate...)

[AlexandraSpears]

Here's Bella walking in front of my Sims' house in Strangetown:

http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af292/alexandrasims2/snapshot_593c4514_393d243f.jpg

Wouldn't she be an elder by now?

I have noticed that in the family tree, when both parents are dead, the tree doesn't indicate they're married--that line is not there. Probably because death ends marriage.

Even though Bella's picture is not in black and white, there's no line indicating that she and Mortimer are married.

[pinimon162]

I like that I have the option to resurrect/find the Pleasantview Bella, but like some others have said, it's not like we were meant to. I like playing without hacks. Saying that though, I do think that Maxis should have made the Strangetown Bella have the 'real' Bella's face and memories, etc. I can't figure out why they didn't put more effort into the whole thing. A lot of people have said that they messed Bella up, or made a mistake and created the story as a cover-up. Sure, the story may have been an afterthought, but I doubt that they'd create the whole thing after messing something up. They'd just have fixed it. All I can think of is that they had no idea of the hype that would ensue when people discovered the flaws in the story (the small telescope, different Bella, etc), and no clue that SimPE or other programmes could show the differences and prove them.
Whoa, that was long. And probably very incoherent. I'm way too tired haha. Basically my point's that Maxis could have done better.

[Lavaster]

OKAY. What happened is this:
Maxis screwed up while making her and all, so they made up that story and edited the memories/OR she really did get abducted, but THEN Maxis screwed things up while she was gone. (Wonder if the guy got fired...) So anyways, to make a long story short.... the above said. The one in Strangetown doesn't even have the same facial sculpture, it's just to continue the story.

[cheshirekat]

I saw Bella walk by Lothario's new house I built him while he was at work.

At first, I didn't think too much of it because I'm not really a fan of Maxis characters. Sometimes I dabble a little with the characters, just to add some variety from my own sims, but I never play out the pre-made stories. In this case, I just wanted to move all the PV characters to houses I liked so I can see which ones I want to play. If I choose to play them.

Lothario had only been at his new house a few seconds when I realized I had already given him a makeover before moving him out of the old house and didn't really feel like playing him at the moment. So I bought him a bicycle and told him to go to work, although a bit late. When Bella strolled by, it was about 10:30. She was passing the mailbox of Don's short lot when I decided to make her selectable to see what she was up to.

Bella's stats showed her as parent to whatever the two Goth brats names are. It showed that her parents were both of the last name Bachelor.

But what I found most interesting is that Bella was employed. And her current job was a pickpocket. Well, no wonder there is so much mystery about Bella. The way I see it, some families will go to all kinds of trouble to make up stories about family members that have disappeared. But the truth is that they were just in prison for a long time. Embarrassed families don't admit their kin is a criminal in prison when it is so much more fun to make up wild stories.

And maxis probably didn't want to admit the prison part of the criminal career was borked/incomplete when Bella got sentenced for some non-trivial law infraction. So they tweaked the game just enough to make Bella's whereabouts a mystery.

I don't really play the Maxis characters these days since learning to make my own custom hoods and townies. But once in a while I check out the pre-mades to remind me how much I love all my cc and my own stories. I still don't see why Bella causes so much interest to simmers. She doesn't offer anything special when she makes an appearance.

[Lavaster]

So Bella had a job in the criminal career? Interesting...

[MsScribble]

I've never seen Bella in PV, not once! lol. I've never played her, but i do love the whole Bella Goth 'thing,' because at least she's a bit of an enigma. Gotta love a enigma.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o297/shellpic/PLEASANTVIEW/snapshot_77024504_5723049f.jpg

[AlexandraSpears]

If I play the Goths, I just "teleport" her in (she's back from being abducted) and use SimBlender and/or SimPE to up the relationship with Mortimer. I just age her to a few days from Elder. I noticed in SimPE that she has a death token, odd since her family tree picture is in color, indicating she's alive...so I delete that. I could use SimPE to give her memories, but that would take a bit of doing, so I just leave it blank--the aliens wiped her memories.

This way, Don and Cassandra can get their own place, and Alexander won't be stuck alone when Mortimer dies. He won't have to move in with his sister, he won't lose all his money when he goes to college (of course inventory is a help there)...he'll have Bella holding down the fort.

Dina gets a bit honked off, but then again, who cares? LOL

[Kailacat]

Cheshirekat: I think Bella had a job in the criminal career because she was a "townie" and that gave her a random job... or was she not a townie?

[AlexandraSpears]

Cheshirekat: I think Bella had a job in the criminal career because she was a "townie" and that gave her a random job... or was she not a townie?

I thought she had a career in the Athletic track in Strangetown.

That reminds me of another thing I noticed--in Apartment Life, when you search for a roommate, you can have the same townie pop up in different searches--but with a different job each time. Jill Fleig might pop up as being in the Adventurer career track one time you do a search, if her name pops up when you do a search again, she might be in the Slacker track.

Slightly off topic...but it's funny how townies have random jobs.

[Tempscire]

Maxis screwed up while making her and all, so they made up that story and edited the memories/OR she really did get abducted, but THEN Maxis screwed things up while she was gone. (Wonder if the guy got fired...)
Why does everyone speculate that EA screwed something up that they made lame cover story for? What could they have possibly done that having to create a whole new plot was easier than simply copying some files out of a back-up? (And I'm sure that there's a nigh infinite number of backups on hand for game designers.) Just look at all the things players can do with SimPE, including restoring Bella! Oh, but I'm sure the actual programmers of the game don't have anything as/more powerful than SimPE at their disposal with which they could have "fixed their mistake." Right. :rolleyes:

[kinneer]

Why does everyone speculate that EA screwed something up that they made lame cover story for? What could they have possibly done that having to create a whole new plot was easier than simply copying some files out of a back-up? (And I'm sure that there's a nigh infinite number of backups on hand for game designers.) Just look at all the things players can do with SimPE, including restoring Bella! Oh, but I'm sure the actual programmers of the game don't have anything as/more powerful than SimPE at their disposal with which they could have "fixed their mistake." Right. :rolleyes:

As a programmer, everything is backed up and recoverable. I don't believe Maxis messed up in that sense. Especially when the memory of her families have of her is her abduction. Does Bella herself, either one, have any recollection of abduction? If so, then that suggest this is part of the story Maxis wanted to create for her.

Why there are two of her? No idea.

[WooHoo31]

I've never bothered doing the whole Bella mystery thing. Can anyone tell me what to do?

[edinfresno]

In my Strangetown not only is Bella abducted by aliens (1970s) but she reappears in Strangetown 25 years later. Her daughter, Cassandra, Has spent those twenty five years obsessed with finding her mother. This leads Cassandra to get a degree in criminology and then become an FBI agent. Bella reappears in Strangetown in the 1990s, steals a car, gets badly hurt in a police chase/crash. During a cat scan a small electronic device is discovered embedded in the base of her skull. It was being used to control her actions because she, like thousands of others who've been abducted, are being used in a horrible alien plot. To discover the rest you'll just have to read my graphic novel "Strangetown Tales - A Stranger In Strangetown". Oh, there's not only 'bad' aliens in that one but good ones, too. There's even battles in space! LOL!

[SmallMizz]

Okay, I've had this on my mind for a while so I'm just gnu say it :D
My theory is: Don, Nina and Dina, had nothing to do with it however she did get abducted using Don's telescope. She was then cloned by the aliens and to be used as a spy but on the way back to Pleasant View the spaceship crashed in Strangetown and the fake Bella was the only surviver and as she was not fully completed (no memories) and had no instructions she just wandered the streets of Strangetown. :)

P.s My sims have been abducted using the small telescope so what are you talking about saying you can only be abducted using the expensive telescope? :L

[Bwinney43]

P.s My sims have been abducted using the small telescope so what are you talking about saying you can only be abducted using the expensive telescope? :L


I think I read somewhere on the Sims 2 Wiki that after Freetime is installed all telescope actions carry a chance of being abducted but I can't tell if that means all telescope actions on ALL telescopes. I've only ever had a sim abducted with the expensive one. Now I'm very curious lol

[Mortimer 2]

Bella...Bella,what are you doing with my wife?

[SmallMizz]

I think I read somewhere on the Sims 2 Wiki that after Freetime is installed all telescope actions carry a chance of being abducted but I can't tell if that means all telescope actions on ALL telescopes. I've only ever had a sim abducted with the expensive one. Now I'm very curious lolWell, using the action: search for U.F.O's, or whatever it's called, probably had something to do with it :P

[ChappyTamTam]

Well I can say one thing and that's that she isn't dead. In Pleasantview, if you look in the family tree, it shows that her family portrait is not greyed out, indicating she's still alive. Also, if Alexander goes to university and Mortimer is already deceased, it shows the cutscene where the kid is Alex but the parent waving him farewell is Bella! I will post a picture if I can get one (I messed up my Pleasantview but maybe I can snag one from my cousin who hasn't touched her Pleasantview). However once the cutscene is over Bella is gone and still unplayable. Also, being Bella was abducted by aliens, don't you think it's just a little ironic that Mortimer dated (and married if you decided to) Dina, who is part alien? Just sayin'! :anime:

[AlexandraSpears]

I consider the Strangetown Bella to be an imperfect clone of the real Bella. The aliens' doing.

Like I said, I just erase the Pleasantview Bella's death token in SimPE, "teleport" her in, and just say she has amnesia. I also fix her age so she's close to elder, within a few days. I'm really reluctant to let her have another child with Mortimer because who knows if her DNA didn't get messed up somehow?

[amora_selvagen]

I am using the strangetown Bella to make my story in my New pleasentview. I used one sim from the bin to become her father, her mother left a long ago(i may create one in the story after some time). She is a teen and has a relationship with Mort. right now she still do not know but she is preg. well i will try to post my story in hereafter i write the first chap. and take enough pictures.

[Savalara]

I know Strangetown Bella is a fake. But damn all that says otherwise, I'll play Strangetown Bella as the real one, and reunite the Goths all I want.

[funcioná!!!]

What I did with Pleasantview Bella:
-I installed the base game, University and Nightlife.
-I spawned her with the Tombstone of L and D.
-I resurrected her.
-I changed her aspiration to family.
-I clicked "set to birthday" in debug mode so she isn't younger than her daughter.
-I installed the other expansion packs and made a backup.
What I usually do with Strangetown Bella:
-I move her to the Curious household and I make a story about her finding out she is a clon (even if she looks nothing like the original Bella).
-Then I move her out and marry her to a new sim made in CAS, I don't want "junk townies" to have children.

[Rawra]

Funciona, if you bring PV Bella back using the Tombstone of L&D, won't she disappear from the resurrecting list? I always thought that the only way to bring her back safe and sound is by using SimPE. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Aegagropilon]

In my Strangetown:

Bella had no memories of her former life -- and a few simyears' worth of missing time -- and no real home. As a Romance sim, she got a job in the slacker career, and got around that whole homeless issue by couch-surfing (and staying the night with various boyfriends). She was happy with the life she created for herself, but she realized that there was something...off... about not having any childhood memories or, really, any memories that preceeded her first day in Strangetown. So, she decided to search for a way to restore her memories or, failing that, find out what happened.

She met up with the Beakers, but was a bit put off by their over-eagerness to insert probes into her brain and, in Loki's words, "shock some sense" into her. Bella politely declined their offer and high-tailed it out of there.

Bella's friendship with Crystal Vu eventually brought her into contact with the Curious brothers, who delightedly declared that she must've been abducted. They asked her to stay with them in their household for a while so that they could find out more about her experiences. Bella, having no other place to go, agreed to stay with Pascal, Vidcund, and Vidcund's alien daughter Laika (Lazlo had moved out of the family home when he married Crystal, and Pascal's alien son Sagan was grown and graduated).

Bella never did fully regain her memories; she regained small flashes, such as the memories of her children's faces and a few memories of Mortimer, but nothing that really confirmed her identity beyond "Bella Goth that lives in Strangetown." She did, however, find herself enjoying her stay in the Curious household and the stability it brought (I had changed her aspiration to Family at that point, to reflect her few regained memories). She liked Laika -- though the same couldn't be said of Laika's jealous father, whom Bella warred with -- and she especially liked Pascal.

Now Bella Curious, she spends her days designing webpages -- and asking herself how many "I WANT TO BELIEVE" UFO conspiracy pages the residents really NEED when there are actual ALIENS living in town -- and her nights at home with her husband Pascal and their twin children Fortran (middle name: Cassandra) and Cobol (middle name: Alexander).

It's a long story -- and a lot's been left out -- but I found the "fake" Bella to be a fun sim to play :lol:

[funcioná!!!]

Funciona, if you bring PV Bella back using the Tombstone of L&D, won't she disappear from the resurrecting list? I always thought that the only way to bring her back safe and sound is by using SimPE. Correct me if I'm wrong.

If you install the Base Game, University and Nightlife only, she appears in the resurrection list, just like all the dead sims in the graveyard. With later expansions the premade dead sims disappear from the resurrection list, I suppose because they have no memories and wrong genetics. So when I reinstall the game I install the base game and those two EP, I resurrect her, save the game and then I install the other EP. Last time I reinstalled I forgot to resurrect her, so I used AnyGameStarter to make a new game with only the base game and the two EP. I don't make her have more children because her genetics might be wrong.

[Babahara]

Interestingly, Bella Goth from Strangetown has the very same bio as Bella Goth from TS1. She's definitely supposed to be the real one, Maxis didn't include her into Strangetown just for kicks.

But I'm surprised that in TS2 she has a romance aspiration. Does it mean that she visited Don's condo for, well, various pleasures? ;) Too bad he doesn't have a memory of that, but then again, she must've been whisked away by aliens after some stargazing quicker than they had a chance to do anything.

[TheDraizeTrain]

I had the Strangetown Bella marry Nervous Subject. I got the "real" Bella using SimPE and the tombstone of life and death, and of course I had to edit her and Mortimer's relationship to be higher. Eventually, I'll have them marry and age Bella to an elder to be around the same age as him. I guess I'll have to change her aspiration as well. I was also surprised about the Romance aspiration she had. I take the Bella interview on thesims2 website as the real deal, so perhaps Bella was upset with the fact that the Caliente sisters were trying to get with him, and then once she was gone he had quickly moved on and it upset her, so she decided to become a romance Sim because of it. But now that she's back I'm of course trying to get them to make up.

[rachii]

When i got Bella back in Pleasantview [the real one], i used 'add neighbour to family' from the tombstone of life and death. she has a few memories, but zero personality or biograghy... does anyone know what starsign she is and if she has a biography?

[Cheese678]

I know for a fact that the Bella Goth in Strangetown is obviously a clone. The aliens that abducted her are covering up any evidence of her being gone, but the clone was accidentally dropped in Strangetown. They weren't able to clone her again, so they just ignored that.

[emilyhwithlove]

I brought back the Bella Goth from StrangeTown to find that she had no relationships/jobs/memories so I just enjoy the Bella Goth that comes on SimTV sometimes to play the piano..

[xMERLiSE]

I revived Bella once with the Insimenator, I was all like, woah snaps, it's Bella Goth. She was super young so I made Mortimer an adult again but he was blond . . . I kind of freaked out, lol, he deff had black hair in Sims 1!

[iRinSekine]

What is the PE in SimPE?

[Mootilda]

What is the PE in SimPE?Package Editor

The real question is "What is the Sim in SimPE?". Answer "Simple":
http://sourceforge.net/projects/simpe/

SimPE: The simple DBPF-Package Editor

[AncientSimLover]

Well i think the Strangetown Bella can be useful to follow by
the storyline, on the otherhand, the Pleasantview Bella is
really the real one and completes the goth family. She is also
good for the storyline. It is up to you to decide, though.

[LadyGreenEyes649]

Alright....old, ongoing discussion, but a few questions.

1. If you resurrect her, and get the message that she's died "on another lot", then where the heck is her tombstone??? Seems to me, if that's in the game someplace, then we SHOULD be able to resurrect her there.
2. If you did this, and she is now "dead", is there a way to UNDO that? Assuming you saved? What I did was bring her in as a family member, then move her to her own place. However, she immediately died there, too. NO WAY to save from that. Didn't save the lot, but she dies no matter what. No time to bring her back, kill her off, and resurrect her the right way. So, some other method??
3. Do NOT want to reset all of PV, but can we reset just her? Or, would resetting the Goth household fix that issue? Any way to do that? Sim PE possible, too, but no idea how that works, and would need details.

Thanks for any help!

[Mootilda]

There's some information about resurrecting Bella here:
http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=53892

Sims that are tagged as "unlinked", which is basically all the premade dead ghosts other than Darleen Dreamer. This is also how they prevent Bella from appearing in-game as she is also tagged as "unlinked", however this unlinked property can be altered with SimPE

[devmars]

sad enough, i deleted Pleasantview and im regretting it. I think i am going to remake her in my own way and move her into one of my custom neighborhoods.

[devmars]

but i do have a question. If you deleted a neighorhood, how can i get it back? is there even a way?

[Darby]

but i do have a question. If you deleted a neighorhood, how can i get it back? is there even a way?

Unless you can retrieve it from your recycle bin, you can't get the deleted one back, no. But you can certainly get a fresh copy from your installation files. Directions here:
http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Reset_Neighborhoods

[purexevil666]

I still can't figure out why in TS3 she appears as a child. >_< shouldn't be she like an elder or something? BTW if you applied for the sims social on fb Bella Goth is still excisted :) i heard one of my friends saying that Bella Goth is who owns the sims and who ever created the whole idea. so they named the character after that. though i don't think so :x

[mackieG13]

I still can't figure out why in TS3 she appears as a child. >_< shouldn't be she like an elder or something? BTW if you applied for the sims social on fb Bella Goth is still excisted :) i heard one of my friends saying that Bella Goth is who owns the sims and who ever created the whole idea. so they named the character after that. though i don't think so :x

TS3 is set around 40 years in the past, so Bella and Mortimer are children. There is no one named Isabella Goth, Will Wright 'invented' Sims, as he was the head of the Sims 1.

[Jelboo]

Is there any way to bring Bella back if you've already done the Tombstone of L and D thing and she already died? Without access to SimPE?

[RowenaLupin]

If she is actually dead after you brought her back the first time with L&D, I believe the resurrection machine thing will bring her back. The only reason she couldn't come back before by that was because there was no actual body/declare dead by a grayed out picture in the family trees.

[Skimmer55]

I want bella, (both) but i don't know how to get them, can someone help??

[Orilon]

I want bella, (both) but i don't know how to get them, can someone help??

"Fake" Bella lives in Strangetown, and is a townie that is a walk by and sometimes is part of the Welcome Wagon that comes when a Sim moves into a house in Strangetown. I'm not sure what you mean by "get her."

The "Real" Bella has an "I am Dead" memory and no memory of her husband and children, so the only way to get her is the messing with Sim PE.

[stevoju]

The best way I've found to have Bella Goth in the game is recreate her and then edit Family Ties, Relations, Memories, etc from SimPE. Even if you manage to retrieve her data some way, there's no garantee it'll keep or that it won't do wierd things to your neighborhood. The strangest things I've seen in game is when I try and bring nonplayable sims back. I actually created every sim in original family trees so I can have Michael Bachelor give Dina Caliente a child, Frida Goth married Fordel Fiorello (Adrianna Lothario's brother), Agnes Crumplebottom married Tango Caliente (Dina and Nina's uncle) after that King dude died. I could've spend hours trying to resurrect these sims somehow and risked all kinds of wierdness when I finally did, but by creating them and then editing Family Ties and Relations it saved me a lot of hassle and I'm more confident that the game will be preserved.

[Skimmer55]

"Fake" Bella lives in Strangetown, and is a townie that is a walk by and sometimes is part of the Welcome Wagon that comes when a Sim moves into a house in Strangetown. I'm not sure what you mean by "get her."

The "Real" Bella has an "I am Dead" memory and no memory of her husband and children, so the only way to get her is the messing with Sim PE.
Its the SimPE thing i don't get. I don't get how you use SimPE to extract her. ://

[Orilon]

Its the SimPE thing i don't get. I don't get how you use SimPE to extract her. ://

After my bad experience with raising dead Sims (I had Patrizio Monty use the bone phone to raise Claudio and Olivia Monty, and had glitches left and right and I'm not even talking about Olivia's glitch), I don't bother with it. I think earlier in this thread someone posted how to use Sim PE to get Bella but I didn't pay attention.

You can't use the bone phone with Bella because she has no character data, so Sim PE is required to create Data for her and to get rid of the "I am Dead" memory.

[Mootilda]

Its the SimPE thing i don't get. I don't get how you use SimPE to extract her. ://Extracting a sim is simple:
http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Extract_In-Game_Sim

You can't use the bone phone with Bella because she has no character data, so Sim PE is required to create Data for her and to get rid of the "I am Dead" memory.If I remember correctly, Bella does have character data. The only problems are that she is unlinked and has a death token which needs to be removed. Both of these things can be fixed with SimPE.

Recreating missing character data is a much larger problem.

[Orilon]

Extracting a sim is simple:
http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Extract_In-Game_Sim

If I remember correctly, Bella does have character data. The only problems are that she is unlinked and has a death token which needs to be removed. Both of these things can be fixed with SimPE.

Recreating missing character data is a much larger problem.

Opps, I think I may have been confusing Bella with Hero Monty.

Edit: After re-reading my post, I wanted to clarify. I know I read at Sim Wikkia that Hero has no character data, and I thought I had read that Bella didn't but may have gotten confused with the info about Hero.

[Skimmer55]

Extracting a sim is simple:
http://simswiki.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Extract_In-Game_Sim

If I remember correctly, Bella does have character data. The only problems are that she is unlinked and has a death token which needs to be removed. Both of these things can be fixed with SimPE.

Recreating missing character data is a much larger problem.
OH thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou You are so epic :D:D:D:D:D

[Peni Griffin]

Actually, that tutorial leaves out a step. It says "Hit Export, and you're done," but in fact it asks you to save the exported file, with no indication of whether you should save under a new name, and by default offered to save him in Pleasantview. I tried exporting Nervous, N002_User0004, and was apprehensive about saving him under that name in my active neighborhood, so went ahead and sent him to Pleasantview, which I don't care if I screw up.

[grammapat]

I used tombstone to "add to family" (not the Goth family); via mods I have, I had her abducted (to match Mortimer's memory). She was fine through the first "baby bump", then when I sent her to community lot she never came back! Could not use tombstone - "died on another lot", and can't resurrect (her kids, who have memory of her death, don't get her listed as available to resurrect.

Reading here about "death tokens", I'm confused: was she still "alive" per family memories, but "fated" to die by the token - even though she lived for a while? Sounds like no way to bring her back except SimPE, which I've never used. She's nothing special; I don't care about playing her. But I don't like being unable to DO anything...maybe I should try this SImPE thing.

[Aegagropilon]

Actually, that tutorial leaves out a step. It says "Hit Export, and you're done," but in fact it asks you to save the exported file, with no indication of whether you should save under a new name, and by default offered to save him in Pleasantview. I tried exporting Nervous, N002_User0004, and was apprehensive about saving him under that name in my active neighborhood, so went ahead and sent him to Pleasantview, which I don't care if I screw up.

I know this is a bit late, but I think you're supposed to save the files under a new name in the savedsims folder or possibly in the downloads. That way they can be accessed in CAS/Bodyshop.

At least that's where I've saved simfiles (like the Therapist kids I made in Pleasantview -- poor Dina! XD) that I later sent to other neighborhoods using CAS.

(Or if that's what you did and I misread it; I'm tired and easily befuddled at the moment.)

[Peni Griffin]

Eventually I reread it and realized that the author assumed I already had a savedsims folder, which I didn't; so I made one and then it went straight there instead of trying to save in Pleasantview. And the one I thought I'd saved in the Pleasantview folder didn't screw anything up because it's not there - I looked. So that's all right. I now have all the funniest-looking Strangetowners sitting in my simbin ready for me to do whatever I like to them.

Still, it would be as well, when we write instructions, to remember not to leave out steps just because they're automated in our systems. Hitting Export isn't the last thing - choosing where to save the file, and then saving, is. And all it gets you is the shell. Pascal and Brandi won't be pregnant, Bella won't remember her family, and the Curious Brothers won't have their special programming that allows them to be abducted every time they go near a big enough telescope.

[original-title]

I didn't actually want to reunite Bella with Mortimer. I liked to pretend that he was getting over losing Bella by dating all of the females in Pleasantview (especially the Calientes!)

[sushigal007]

I find that if I export sims and don't rename them, Bodyshop crashes on loading. So yeah, I always rename anyone I extract.

[littleliar990]

I reunited the real Bella with her family and it was plain boring. So I changed her into a werewolf evil witch and killed her eventually...

[Yazoo]

eh, I would rather keep Bella in Strangetown, I doubt that is fake. Surely you can bring her back to Pleasantville, but I like her in Strangetown, even if...She wants a gazillion lovers. I am not going to deny this. But I do believe the REAL Bella is in Strangetown. I mean surely, if she was in Pleasantville, Mortimer wouldn't want to be with the Calieste (SP?) sisters. So in a way, from both points of view Mortimer moved on and by the looks of things so did miss Bella Goth (Just not with Don) >_> Though she does claim she didn't cheat on Mortimer. o.o! But yeah, I read the interview with Bella Goth on TheSims2.com >_> shows I am a huge nerd.

Hey! I wanted to find out what happened to her...That's my story and I am sticking to it!

[lizard49]

I play Tarlia's Megahood & there are two Bella Goths in my game. When Darren Dreamer aged up to Elder I was given the option to age up both Bellas. I only aged up one of them. I still don't know which is which, but at least I can tell them apart now.

[BeckyBoo8]

I can only use cheats to get her back, and I know it's the real one. Because when I look on the family tree I see she's alive. Once I kill her,m she's dead.

[AlexandraSpears]

I've always viewed the Strangetown Bella as a clone of the "real" Bella.

I also wonder why the mystery about the Caliente sisters (the back story says they showed up the night of Bella's disappearance) yet Dina had been married to Bella's brother.

[Yazoo]

Wellll, I ended up caving, and brought Bella to Pleasantville, just no cheats :D And the Caliente sisters they saw Mortimer as Vulnerable. He had lost his wife, but after all those years of being married...Why in the heck would he just...Well, give up on her? It makes no sense! Whatsoever.

I honestly remember how happy they were in the Sims, Sims 2 (Playstation 2) ...But then Dina comes along, and bam Mortimer is a Bimbo...Can guys be Bimbos? ANYWAY, there is a way to get Bella Goth back without using cheats :D Its quite awesome ^.^

[VerDeTerre]

I thought I read that moving a Sim from one neighborhood to another results in neighborhood corruption, just as deleting Sims from the Sim bin. It's in the discussion about non-intuitive things to not do. As for the Strangetown Bella being the real Bella, it's been discussed how the Strangetown Bella does not look the same or have the same relationships or memories as the Pleasantville Bella. I prefer the Strangetown one, however. Her face is rounder, her lips are full and her eyes have a pleasing almond shape. To me, the story line makes more sense if the Strangetown Bella is the "real" Bella.

Bella disappeared one night - it's tied to the arrival of the Caliente sisters. The sisters are the children of an alien. Bella has no memories of her marriage and she ended up in Strangetown because she was abducted. She does not show as dead on her family tree in Pleasantville because she never died, she disappeared. That story flows and has continuity between the two neighborhoods to my mind.

It is strange that Dina married Bella's brother. It must have happened after Bella's disappearance. Knowing Dina, Michael was probably settled at that point in his life and had some money. That would have appealed to her.

[Peni Griffin]

Transporting people from neighborhood to neighborhood is a game corrupter, yes, though it wasn't intended to be.

And Strangetown Bella does not look remotely like the real original Sims1 Bella, who had dark skin and a squarish face with straight, black hair that didn't go past her shoulders.

As for the backstories, all of them have inherent logical flaws which we all have to resolve as best suits us. Dina and Nina are on their first days of adulthood, with Dina already a widow, and that's what cried out to me as the key to the situation. Bella also must have been gone quite awhile - she's not an elder and Mortimer is; also, Sims1 Michael Bachelor was younger than Bella Goth and he died as an elder. So, again for my purposes, it's just a coincidence about the timing of Dina and Nina arriving in town, teens running away from an abusive home (look at those childhood pictures in their album; just look at them!). Michael exhibited very poor judgement in marrying Dina, though this is mitigated some by his wanting to rescue the girls from a life on the streets. Dina is a Fortune sim because she likes security, but the deal with latching onto older men is more about that abusive childhood. She wants a benevolent father figure in her life in the worst way! Mortimer regards his relationship with Dina in the light of cleaning up Mike's mess, since he didn't do anything to get his wife and her sister any marketable skills and made some bad investments or disposition of his property that left them nearly destitute. He's given up on Bella's return because she's been gone so long, Cassandra's anxious to marry and move out, and he and Alexander are lonely in that gloomy old house.

Maybe this reconstruction requires some shifting around of the timing of memories; but if you don't get into SimPE to shove some memories around anyway, Brandi's fetus doesn't have a father (which I understand to be literally true, and that's a story problem of some moment) so if I ever go tidy up Pleasantview I can do all that at the same time. It resolves the issue of why the Sisters Caliente are so young with no sign of elixir in sight, and whereas you have to go looking for the memories, that age thing is right in your face during daily gameplay, so it's the bit I homed in on. In other people's games, other things bother them, so they'd rewrite differently. None of the text boxes are write-protected, so there's no reason not to go to town on it.

My Strangetown Bella's complete failure to look like Sims1 Bella bugged me so much I gussied her up into a bald, face-painted, bell-bottom-wearing cultist and changed her job in SimPE to the paranormal career track. She's just some boring Face 2 townie who happens to share a name with an abductee from another part of the country. And Pleasantview is a test hood so I don't have to decide whether I want to bring Bella back after Mortimer marries Dina and arrange Drama.

[Yazoo]

Shakes head

noooooooo I didn't move her from one hood to the next :) In fact. There is this nifty site that gives you a Pleasantville with Bella and her memories :D If you of course download the hack for the memories not to go poof.

For an example:

Dina remembers her first woohoo with Micheal. When the hack is on

Were as when you play without it. When your playable Sim or Dina (being played) if she were to, woohoo with Don, she would remember that has her first time.

I did look up about Brandi Broke's pregnancy. Because I had wanted her and Mortimer to get together, and I sped up time to get her through potty training her toddler son. And bam she poked out. I was like...Uhm...This...This is weird.

So, yes I have Bella back in Pleasantville. And the clone in Strangetown. :) YAY for real Bella :D (Who has now fallen in love with Tegan :D ) muahahahahha

[BeckyBoo8]

Wellll, I ended up caving, and brought Bella to Pleasantville, just no cheats :D And the Caliente sisters they saw Mortimer as Vulnerable. He had lost his wife, but after all those years of being married...Why in the heck would he just...Well, give up on her? It makes no sense! Whatsoever.

I honestly remember how happy they were in the Sims, Sims 2 (Playstation 2) ...But then Dina comes along, and bam Mortimer is a Bimbo...Can guys be Bimbos? ANYWAY, there is a way to get Bella Goth back without using cheats :D Its quite awesome ^.^

How? I watched a video on YouTube where Cassandra gets abducted, and they drop Bella off instead. I was sucessful in getting Cassandra abducted. Bella is still nowhere to be found. But I can bring her back with cheats.

[Yazoo]

BeckyBoo8, there is this awesome site, that you can bring Bella back with no cheats. :) I shall give you that site ^.^

Clean Templates For The Neighborhoods (http://meetme2theriver.livejournal.com/63030.html) <--With Pleasantview, Bella Goth is part of the package. And she looks like the REAL Bella Goth, FYI. So she doesn't even resemble the Bella Goth from Strangetown. Its pretty awesome. :D Just you know...I kept looking at Bella and was like. She uh...Looks REALLY different o.O

[Darby]

I watched a video on YouTube where Cassandra gets abducted, and they drop Bella off instead.

Nothing more than clever editing for story purposes. This never actually happens in the game.

[Alijah]

It's important to note that the clean templates don't just give Bella back but are actual replacements for the Maxis hoods, with cleaned up memories and character files.

If you are looking to just bring Bella back without starting Pleasantview over, you can use SimPE to remove her "I am dead" token and edit the memories and family ties to make her recognized by her family again. After the token is removed, you can just use a teleporter hack or simblender to add her to the household.

However, if you don't mind restarting Pleasantview, the clean templates really are fantastic.

[AlexandraSpears]

I don't even bother with restoring her memories. I figure the aliens wiped them out.

[esmesqualor]

Can guys be Bimbos?
Completely besides the point, but 'bimbos' used to be slang for an "unintelligent or brutish male."

ETA to Levera: No, no, no - I meant I was going completely off point, not that you were.

[Yazoo]

I was just asking, esmequalor, that was it. I wasn't trying to go off subject, really.

[julmoo]

Normally I am not a thread necromancer but I just HAVE to post my Bella Goth theory:

According to Pleasantview's neighbourhood description there are new neighbours making trouble in the town.
The new neighbours are who? The Caliente sisters (and possibly Don Lothario).

Now as we know Don Lothario made some advances on Bella Goth and she was not completely against them (she did reject him to make out though).
Don Lothario introduced her to telescopes as we can see her looking through the telescope on his roof. On her own lot she continued to cultivate her interest in planetology and discovered something that she shouldn't have...that's how she got abducted.
The aliens decided to clone her for unknown reasons and dropped her off in Pleasantview.

However the aliens flew over Strangetown, crashed there and the cloned Bella Goth was the only survivor and now roams the town.

The original Bella however is not hidden somewhere. She is actually Dina Caliente!
Dina and Nina are apparently sisters, however if you take a closer look their grandfather was abducted by aliens and their father is the result of the following pregnancy.

Now with that "alien" connection we can assume that Bella is actually Dina and the Caliente family only claims Nina and Dina to be sisters. In reality they have a connection to aliens that is not quite clear to us.

Because Bella is actually Dina, Dina wants to marry Mortimer so bad to get back to her family, even if only inofficially.
If you move Dina into the Goth household you can dress Dina in Bella's clothes and change her hairstyle and make up. They look exactly the same! :O

As to why Bella is still alive in the family tree: Mortimer and the kids think that Bella might be still alive somewhere and hang out with aliens so they believe she is still alive and marked as such in the family tree.

[BeckyBoo8]

@xXxPrince Of DarknessxXx Thanks, I'll check it out!
@Darby Yes, I know. After I successfully managed to get Cassandra abducted, I was disappointed to find her come back without Bella lol.
It's quite simple to get Sims abducted. I discovered that all the other household members must be sleeping. And, the abduction happens as soon as they look into the telescope. So, I let my Sim stand there all night (Of course, using BoolProp to drag the motives up and keep other members energy low) and keep canceling the action of looking in the telescope and back in. I always get them abducted, my method has yet failed me.

[pinimon162]

Normally I am not a thread necromancer but I just HAVE to post my Bella Goth theory:

According to Pleasantview's neighbourhood description there are new neighbours making trouble in the town.
The new neighbours are who? The Caliente sisters (and possibly Don Lothario).

Now as we know Don Lothario made some advances on Bella Goth and she was not completely against them (she did reject him to make out though).
Don Lothario introduced her to telescopes as we can see her looking through the telescope on his roof. On her own lot she continued to cultivate her interest in planetology and discovered something that she shouldn't have...that's how she got abducted.
The aliens decided to clone her for unknown reasons and dropped her off in Pleasantview.

However the aliens flew over Strangetown, crashed there and the cloned Bella Goth was the only survivor and now roams the town.

The original Bella however is not hidden somewhere. She is actually Dina Caliente!
Dina and Nina are apparently sisters, however if you take a closer look their grandfather was abducted by aliens and their father is the result of the following pregnancy.

Now with that "alien" connection we can assume that Bella is actually Dina and the Caliente family only claims Nina and Dina to be sisters. In reality they have a connection to aliens that is not quite clear to us.

Because Bella is actually Dina, Dina wants to marry Mortimer so bad to get back to her family, even if only inofficially.
If you move Dina into the Goth household you can dress Dina in Bella's clothes and change her hairstyle and make up. They look exactly the same! :O

As to why Bella is still alive in the family tree: Mortimer and the kids think that Bella might be still alive somewhere and hang out with aliens so they believe she is still alive and marked as such in the family tree.


...except Dina was married to Michael Bachelor, who is Bella's brother :blink: ..not to destroy your theory or anything :lol:

[julmoo]

Hmm. He is dead at the start of the game so maybe she just pretends they were married after he died! :O

[BeckyBoo8]

Julmoo- Other than the fact pinimon162 mentions about Dina being married to Michael Bachelor, that is the best Bella theory I've heard. Most of the others are all stupid, and don't make sense at all. Yours is accurate except for one little fact, so cookies for you :)
I was really looking foward to bringing Bella back and I thought she'd be in Belladonna Cove or something, but she's not so that was a disapointment to me. No one else deserves Mortimer, so he is not going to marry Dina or anyone in my game.

[CissyFlower]

I read this thread a couple of days ago and today, Bella suddenly appeared in my game in Pleasentview! I was playing a family that i made in Pleasentview. Then when it was 2 oclock at night, when their dead ghost child was swarming around in the garden, suddenly normal alive Pleasentview looking Bella walks on the lot, around the garden and disappears. Really funny how exited I was about it!

[Darby]

Exciting or not, that's not normal game behavior. I'd be concerned about why Bella was wandering around a residential lot at a time and in a manner that's totally not like what a normal walk-by would do.

[JDacapo]

@xXxPrince Of DarknessxXx Thanks, I'll check it out!
@Darby Yes, I know. After I successfully managed to get Cassandra abducted, I was disappointed to find her come back without Bella lol.
It's quite simple to get Sims abducted. I discovered that all the other household members must be sleeping. And, the abduction happens as soon as they look into the telescope. So, I let my Sim stand there all night (Of course, using BoolProp to drag the motives up and keep other members energy low) and keep canceling the action of looking in the telescope and back in. I always get them abducted, my method has yet failed me.

How often does this happen?

[Amairani]

I have all EPs and from my multiple experience with Sims abductions it's not necessary for the household to be asleep to have one of their member abducted. Chances skyrocket if a Sim has Knowledge aspiration with a high Science hobby rate, even by simply stargazing my Sims can get abducted up to two times per night!

[fruitsymphony]

I think so too, because, my sim who was abducted, was Knowledge.

[Peni Griffin]

And yet, I haven't been able to get Merlin Hawkins abducted even once. It's a flat die roll; science, knowledge, and high logic people are more likely to get abducted because they're more likely to use the telescope. In Drama Acres, I've had two Knowledge abductions; one Fortune abduction (viewing to skill); and one Romance abduction (viewing to cheer himself up after his first bad date ever). Don't extrapolate too much from your individual samples.

[Darby]

Obviously, the Knowledge perk Summon Aliens increases the chance of abduction, and I think the Science hobbyist's Search For Constellations/Planets/UFOs ability does as well (although some at Simbology think this is not the case and that I must have a hack that increases the chance under Search For), but other than that, the chances are the same for all sims, regardless of aspiration, hobby enthusiasm, or logic skill.

I can attest to having had plenty of sims abducted while others were awake too. In fact, I'm pretty sure others have been awake for most of my sim abductions.

[ieta_cassiopeia]

I haven't touched the Pleasantview Bella because I don't have a working copy of SimPE, and besides my one neighbourhood is built on Strangetown. The Strangetown Bella married Adam Pedersen, had a son (Najib), became a Senior Executive, then got sent to prison for having one too many wild parties at 3 am. As I type, she hasn't finished her sentence.

[ieta_cassiopeia]

Regarding alien abductions, I've not noticed any aspiration pattern as such, though I did get one Knowledge Sim who seemingly couldn't touch a telescope without being abducted. Fortunately she went through that phase before I downloaded any alien pregnancy hacks, else the house would have been overrun with youngsters...

[JDacapo]

I have a hack that makes abductions more likely, and on one of my computers I have all EPs installed. Olive Specter has found a new obsession: getting probeded in teh butt. And of course... becoming a plantsim. I may or may not let her depending on whether or not a lamp gets delivered.

[BeckyBoo8]

The Summon Aliens aspiration benefits reward seems to increase the chance of getting abducted greatly. It has never failed me. Also it seems that most abductions happen as soon as they look in the telescope (if they're not using the benefit) so I just fill the sim's queue with "Stargaze" and keep canceling the action after 5 sim minutes (5 seconds). Although that's only if I'm trying to get the sim abducted on purpose which I've only done when I was trying to learn about aliens. But I have had two sims abducted hours into the stargaze- those being Darren Dreamer and my sister's CAS Tracy Piccolo.

[Darby]

Summon Aliens does indeed increase the chance by more than just a little bit. It's a huge jump. Based on just my game, it seems to be at least a 75% chance.

The stop/start method of stargazing for increasing the chances was proved invalid by Pescado long ago, though. Save yourself the hassle, and just let sims stargaze steadily without interruption. It's actually rather fun to have it happen when you're off doing other things. More of a surprise. :)

[Lucia940]

This is Natasha Goth. She is the Goth heiress and is Bella's granddaughter. You can bring Bella back, but you have to use SimPe for Bella to be able to stay. The death token Eaxis gave her is an absolute killer. The real Pleasantview Bella and my sim had a daughter, who in turn had Natasha. You can use Insim even when Bella is dead to use genetics, but you have to pause the game as she disappears quick! I wanted to share my photo to prove the after death thing. You should notice Natasha is on the Goth estate. I revamped it.

Natasha Goth: Bella's Granddaughter and heiress. Yes, Cassie is dead too.

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In the photo's you will recognize the Goth Estate. Natasha plays for her ghostly family at night. In one photo of the front door entry, Cassie Goth is lifting a lamp to check for dust. lol and you can see Morty doing his thing and others. Her great grandmother really likes Natasha. Without being able to use a dead person's DNA with Insim or Simblinder, none of this would have been possible. Now the Goth name will continue as all are dead except for Natasha and her sister Sienna Goth. Natasha is a good witch, so you see light coming from her. Compare a pick of her and Bella Goth. :report:

[marka93]

It is very easy to get Bella Goth back in your game for Pleasantview with out SimPE.

1. Make sure you have download this http://www.modthesims.info/d/211622 and put it in your Downloads folder.
2. Use the tombstone of life and death and add Bella to the Goth house then pause the game, place the Resurrection Potion near Bella.
3. Exit the lot and then go back in.
4. Have Bella drink the potion then unpause your game.

After Bella drinks the potion she is good to play. :beer:

[BeckyBoo8]

In my Pleasantview, the disapearance of Bella has calmed down quite a bit.
Cassandra started her own family with Darren Dreamer and they lived in the Goth Manor leaving Dirk behind. They had twins Anne and Thomas, and Darren had an alien Blue Ivy. They're all children now.
Mortimer loved his two grandchildren, while Alexander practiced the art of light magic.
Now Mortimer is dead from old age and Alexander left earlier than he planned for college, because he didn't want to be a bother living with his sister's family.
Alexander is at college and has taken an interest in Lucy Burb but I don't get it. He's a nerdy, good-hearted, homely looking boy. And Lucy is a slutty, pretty, not so smart girl with some niceness to her.

[Marijaa07N]

Ocean, see my pictures in the first page of this thread (took from the Enhanser) - the real Bella is the Pleasantview one, with a family tree, showing her parents, and her childs. It can't be the Strangetown Bella - unless you decide that the Strangetown one is prettier than the Pleasantview one - and it's a "legal" decision...:).

I don't know ONE THING:Why Mortimer isn't marry for Bella!?Why??? :report:


(Sorry for my bad English) :)

[Mootilda]

I don't know ONE THING:Why Mortimer isn't marry for Bella!?Why???If the marriage ties still existed, then Mortimer would be unable to marry again. EA decided to break those ties so that people could make their own choices about Mortimer's future.

[Lucia940]

This is the Pleasantview Bella Goth. I do have Bella where I used SimPe to extract her and then I pimped her out. lol She's actually beautiful and NOT maxisy. You can also see the pimped out Bella with the pimped out Cassandra Goth. Bella has her back turned to the camera, but you can see Cassandra pretty well. You can also see Bella's daughter, Shayla Goth as a child. These photos were taken with the unvamped Bella Goth at Dina's house and the totally pimped out Bella on the Goth estate. Note: Shayla is the little girl. She's Bella's child. The sim next to Shayla is of course Cassandra Goth. She is completely revamped. I used the original Cassandra as I did the original Bella when I revamped them. Sasha Blade is sitting next to Bella. She's in red. Bella has on the mint green. I will show a better photo of the revamped Bella when I get one taken.

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[simsoba13]

I was really disappointed when I reunited Bella with her family. First because I reunited the fake Bella and then because it was so...not special. Anticlimactic, if you will. I was expecting something. I wasn't sure what, but definitely SOMETHING.

And I got nothing. It was all very blah and not worth the trouble or time. Dun dun dun if you re-unite strangetown Bella with the pleasntview Goths there wiil be Corruption in your game :alarm: :mod: :blink: :s

[Simmy_Unicorn817]

:help: If you had another goth abducted, at the goth house, when they come back would bella be there?

[ansleon]

:help: If you had another goth abducted, at the goth house, when they come back would bella be there?

No. Bella in Pleasantview as shipped with the game is actually dead and can't come back. The only way for her to come back in Pleasantview is through tricksy methods figured out and created by players, e.g. to download a cleaned-up template for the town which includes Bella as an alive townie.