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#1
12th Sep 2013 at 11:34 PM
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Education and school system
Wich will be the school system in sims 4?Could be a little different from sims 3, although I do not desagree much with it.
I like Twallan´s carrer mod when teens can graduate on the several skills rabit holes like industries buildings, bistros, police stations, offices, hospitals, etc.
That could happens in sims 4 for those sims who wants a technical graduation like cooking, mechanics, nursing, babysitting, electricity, etc.
The university should be on the base game, using the same system used now for school, for those who wants a high level carreer like medicine, advocacy, engineering, etc, with several tasks that would define the respective graduation level.
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#2
13th Sep 2013 at 7:29 AM
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I have high hopes for schooling. I know half of these things will probably never happen (in S4 at least) but I do like hoping regardless! Like, I would like college and private schools to cost actual moolah. Heck even have a small school fee for public school. I know my school didn't pay for the majority of my school supplies and school lunch!
Maybe have the opportunity to play your sim kids while at school but not during class. Recess or lunchtime, for example. Or if you opt to skip a class, walk around the halls and hide in the bathroom or empty classroom (yes, I would love for an open school, but "rabbit-hole" classrooms when class is in session) and just hang out or finish up late homework.
Let anyone pursue higher education. Any age, at any point in their lives. Full time or part time for those who have other responsibilities. Yes, let there be options to work while doing going to school. Work during the day? Night school or night classes. Can't afford college outright, or have a family to support as well? Be able to take on a part-time job 2-3 days a week. The Sims is about time management, right? Let some real world time juggling events occur to them.
Maybe have the opportunity to play your sim kids while at school but not during class. Recess or lunchtime, for example. Or if you opt to skip a class, walk around the halls and hide in the bathroom or empty classroom (yes, I would love for an open school, but "rabbit-hole" classrooms when class is in session) and just hang out or finish up late homework.
Let anyone pursue higher education. Any age, at any point in their lives. Full time or part time for those who have other responsibilities. Yes, let there be options to work while doing going to school. Work during the day? Night school or night classes. Can't afford college outright, or have a family to support as well? Be able to take on a part-time job 2-3 days a week. The Sims is about time management, right? Let some real world time juggling events occur to them.
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#3
13th Sep 2013 at 7:32 AM
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I totally agree with some kind of university in the base game, with or without a glorified campus. I just want some form of higher education in the base game for added realism, and so that my intelligent Sims can justify their existence.
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#4
13th Sep 2013 at 9:16 AM
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I loved the private school system from Sims 1 (or 2? I don't remember anymore) where you had to invite the principal to dinner and kiss his ass to get in
#5
13th Sep 2013 at 10:18 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by gege_sml
I loved the private school system from Sims 1 (or 2? I don't remember anymore) where you had to invite the principal to dinner and kiss his ass to get in |
That was TS2!
I really really really want private schools back. Multiple ones would be nice, kind of like TS3's boarding school system without the actual boarding school part. Sports, Arts, Hippie, Military, and generic rich-people schools would be awesome.
I've always found it weird that public schools didn't have uniforms (just being non-American, I guess) so the ability to optionally choose and set your own would be great.
I would also love to see preschool, which is a rabbithole you can take your toddler to while you work, and they can learn skills while they're there and make friends very early on!
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#6
13th Sep 2013 at 11:01 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by DigitalSympathies
I've always found it weird that public schools didn't have uniforms (just being non-American, I guess) so the ability to optionally choose and set your own would be great. |
Personally, i wouldn't mind the option of selecting what school your sims go to, in the case if multiple schools. In the Sims 3, if you have two schools in town, your sims goes to whichever one is closest. I would like the option of setting one as an elementary school, and the other as a high school, or something like that.
#7
13th Sep 2013 at 11:03 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by DigitalSympathies
I've always found it weird that public schools didn't have uniforms (just being non-American, I guess) so the ability to optionally choose and set your own would be great. |
Yes! Let there be that choice! I was a public school student for a while and I had to wear a uniform, so my Sims should too. The resurrection of public/private schools would also be great - realistically, the children of the affluent wouldn't be mixing with the children of trailer trash.
Personally, I'd like to see three schooling-type rabbitholes: a daycare or preschool, effectively a rabbithole baby-sitting service for toddlers; a public school; and a private (fee-paying) school. I wouldn't like the schools to be divided up further (i.e into primary/elementary, middle school and high school) - I feel most worlds aren't densely populated enough to support that function. Six schooling rabbitholes would look bizarre in smaller worlds, or result in an "empty world" feeling in cities, unless they were filled with endless townie students. Not what you want.
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#8
13th Sep 2013 at 1:24 PM
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Tying into the "sub-hood" idea someone brought up in another thread, I like the idea that if, for example (using Sims 3 world names here for simplicity), you had Bridgeport (downtown area), Sunset Valley (middle class suburbs) and Appaloosa Plains (rural farming community), you could have different, possibly non-rabbit hole, schools for each.
For instance, Bridgeport would have your typical inner-city public school full of a rough mixture of kids from poorer backgrounds, Sunset Valley could have a nice private school for the more privileged kids in the area, and Appaloosa Plains could have a more typical classic schoolhouse.
Just an idea.
For instance, Bridgeport would have your typical inner-city public school full of a rough mixture of kids from poorer backgrounds, Sunset Valley could have a nice private school for the more privileged kids in the area, and Appaloosa Plains could have a more typical classic schoolhouse.
Just an idea.
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#9
13th Sep 2013 at 4:15 PM
Posts: 252
The Sims school system sucks. Can my kids actually learn something?
I want my kids to come home a little smarter than the day before. It pains me kids have to be limited in skills! In real life, there are child prodigies who are WAY more advanced than the average adult. I would like their "homework" to actually benefit THEM and not just their grade.
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I want my kids to come home a little smarter than the day before. It pains me kids have to be limited in skills! In real life, there are child prodigies who are WAY more advanced than the average adult. I would like their "homework" to actually benefit THEM and not just their grade.
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#10
13th Sep 2013 at 4:57 PM
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The base game could have some type of formal education to justify having sims in higher professions like Medicine, Scientist, etc. Even if University will be an EP, you know it's coming, what benefit will there be for having a degree, opposed to not having a degree? Sims starting out in the field with a higher level? Nah. I kind of get how Sims 3 had the new careers, but didn't like it was connected to being in a social group. I think having degree specific jobs in Sims 4 will be great but still what will make the staple jobs stand out for the sims having a degree? I was thinking adding levels to the staple jobs, Medicine, Scientist, Military, Law Enforcement, and so forth, that can only be accessed by the sims with a degree. That way the wish may change when University comes out to be at the top level of those professions, and the sims that have worked in that field before can also get degrees to get higher levels too.
Also, I was a bit disappointed that there was no trade certificates or ability to gain an Associates degree in Sims 3. Sometimes I just want to play a family of working, blue collar sims and not living the rich, successful life. There could have been new careers added that give a good pay, but sims working it may want to focus in other areas of life, like raising a family, partying, just regular joes. That is why I appreciate having Twallan's Career mod, it allows my sims to have part-time jobs all through their lives if I want that for the sim. Some families I just don't want to be rich, I want more struggle. OK, that is weird, right? My game play. *shrugs*
Just some ideas I have for having a formal education that may be at different levels, I want more diversity. Love the ideas I see for children and teens education too. Hope that can be fleshed out in the new series.
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Also, I was a bit disappointed that there was no trade certificates or ability to gain an Associates degree in Sims 3. Sometimes I just want to play a family of working, blue collar sims and not living the rich, successful life. There could have been new careers added that give a good pay, but sims working it may want to focus in other areas of life, like raising a family, partying, just regular joes. That is why I appreciate having Twallan's Career mod, it allows my sims to have part-time jobs all through their lives if I want that for the sim. Some families I just don't want to be rich, I want more struggle. OK, that is weird, right? My game play. *shrugs*
Just some ideas I have for having a formal education that may be at different levels, I want more diversity. Love the ideas I see for children and teens education too. Hope that can be fleshed out in the new series.
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#11
17th Sep 2013 at 11:21 AM
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For TS2, thanks to various mods I was able to implement variou school systems and educational institutions. I had:
Flexi-school (custom) - home school option
Public school (in-game) - free for everyone
Private school (in-game) - pay $1k per child, $1.5k per teen per week. Admissions process (invite headmaster) or pay $5k to have their admission noticed
Prep school (custom) - pay $2k per child, $3.5k per teen per week. Attends 9AM-3PM (teens)/5PM (children), gain 1 to 5 skill points per week. Admissions cost of $5k per child, $7.5k per teen. Teen admission cost also paid when a child in prep school transitions to teen.
Boarding school (custom) - pay $3.5k per child, $5k per teen per week. Attends Mon 9AM-Fri 3PM, gain 3 to 10 skill points per week. Admissions cost of $5k per child, $7.5k per teen. Teen admission cost also paid when a child in prep school transitions to teen.
Associate's Degree - required for a sim to advance in the culinary, law enforcement, and military careers. Two-year course costing $1k per year and any sim can enroll if they are sixteen or older.
Bachelor's Degree - same as in game but costs $2.5k per year for four years, although reduced by 25% if done via correspondance. Sims can reach level 10 in business, intelligence, journalism (assuming correct major choices) architecture, education, law, natural science, oceanography, politics, and science allow between levels 5 and 7
Master's Degree - allows architecture, education, law, and medical up to level 10. Costs $3.5k a year for two years.
Doctorate - allows natural science, politics, science up to level 10. Costs $5k for four years.
This is honestly the kind of stuff I'd like to see in TS4 and beyond. We had boarding schools which specialised in certain traits and skills but I'd like to see a little more. (Mind you, I also had mods relating to slower aging and reduced pay, so sending a child or teen to boarding school is a massive cost and no sim family yet has been rich enough to afford it.)
Flexi-school (custom) - home school option
Public school (in-game) - free for everyone
Private school (in-game) - pay $1k per child, $1.5k per teen per week. Admissions process (invite headmaster) or pay $5k to have their admission noticed
Prep school (custom) - pay $2k per child, $3.5k per teen per week. Attends 9AM-3PM (teens)/5PM (children), gain 1 to 5 skill points per week. Admissions cost of $5k per child, $7.5k per teen. Teen admission cost also paid when a child in prep school transitions to teen.
Boarding school (custom) - pay $3.5k per child, $5k per teen per week. Attends Mon 9AM-Fri 3PM, gain 3 to 10 skill points per week. Admissions cost of $5k per child, $7.5k per teen. Teen admission cost also paid when a child in prep school transitions to teen.
Associate's Degree - required for a sim to advance in the culinary, law enforcement, and military careers. Two-year course costing $1k per year and any sim can enroll if they are sixteen or older.
Bachelor's Degree - same as in game but costs $2.5k per year for four years, although reduced by 25% if done via correspondance. Sims can reach level 10 in business, intelligence, journalism (assuming correct major choices) architecture, education, law, natural science, oceanography, politics, and science allow between levels 5 and 7
Master's Degree - allows architecture, education, law, and medical up to level 10. Costs $3.5k a year for two years.
Doctorate - allows natural science, politics, science up to level 10. Costs $5k for four years.
This is honestly the kind of stuff I'd like to see in TS4 and beyond. We had boarding schools which specialised in certain traits and skills but I'd like to see a little more. (Mind you, I also had mods relating to slower aging and reduced pay, so sending a child or teen to boarding school is a massive cost and no sim family yet has been rich enough to afford it.)
#12
17th Sep 2013 at 5:09 PM
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Wow Katya!! That's more detailed than what I wanted. I've always wanted a better educational system for the sims games. For me, University can be a separate EP but base game should at least include:
Pre-school/Kindergarten - for your pre-K and Kindergarten kids - Pre-school/kindergarten teachers ONLY
Elementary/Middle school - for your Elementary/Middle school kids - Elementary/middle school teachers ONLY
Private school - for your Elem/Middle/High school kids - Elementary/Middle/High school teachers ONLY
High School/Vocational/Trade School - for your high school kids and those teens that need to learn a vocation/trade - High school/vocational/trade school teachers/instructors ONLY
Community College - for your YA's that need higher education past high school - AS/BA degrees - Instructors/Professors ONLY
I'd be happy to have these as separate RH's in my world. I'd like to see careers/professions depend on how educated your sim is before offering them a promotion in their job/career/profession.
Then you have the "off world" schools much like boarding schools are now in TS3:
Private boarding school - sims have to pay for their children to go there - Elementary/Middle/High school grades
Private College - same as community college but with a wider range of majors
That was my idea for TS3 that never happened. ~~shrugs~~ One can hope that TS4 may have some of this but I'm not holding my breath. As of right now, I'm not switching because CASt isn't going to be included in Base Game and I'm not sold on what I've seen so far.
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Pre-school/Kindergarten - for your pre-K and Kindergarten kids - Pre-school/kindergarten teachers ONLY
Elementary/Middle school - for your Elementary/Middle school kids - Elementary/middle school teachers ONLY
Private school - for your Elem/Middle/High school kids - Elementary/Middle/High school teachers ONLY
High School/Vocational/Trade School - for your high school kids and those teens that need to learn a vocation/trade - High school/vocational/trade school teachers/instructors ONLY
Community College - for your YA's that need higher education past high school - AS/BA degrees - Instructors/Professors ONLY
I'd be happy to have these as separate RH's in my world. I'd like to see careers/professions depend on how educated your sim is before offering them a promotion in their job/career/profession.
Then you have the "off world" schools much like boarding schools are now in TS3:
Private boarding school - sims have to pay for their children to go there - Elementary/Middle/High school grades
Private College - same as community college but with a wider range of majors
That was my idea for TS3 that never happened. ~~shrugs~~ One can hope that TS4 may have some of this but I'm not holding my breath. As of right now, I'm not switching because CASt isn't going to be included in Base Game and I'm not sold on what I've seen so far.
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You don't get out of life alive. ~Jimmy the Hand
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