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#26 Old 21st Sep 2010 at 3:32 AM
Haha, then I'll be hated too.

Quote: Originally posted by jooxis
The sex-ed I have had was one of the worst. I think at age 15 I still didn't know what "sex" was and that there is something called ejaculation, erection, ovulation, etc... I really just thought people rubbed their bodies together and the female became pregnant. There was no way I could find out because my parents were probably too uncomfortable about mentioning it, my school programs never offered much and I never watched pornography (had no access to it anyway).

This surprises me a lot because when I was 15 I had already had sex. And I don't know, at that age everyone knows how sex works, or that is what I had always assumed.

And honestly, how can someone ask if anal sex will make you pregnant? That is something I don't understand.

My sex-ed at school was pretty limited but covered the part of anticonceptives and those things, and they did not tell us that "don't have sex or you'll die" thing. I was going to a Catholic school, but most teachers were open minded and talked directly about the important things.


Oh, and about drugs, we mainly got information. They didn't use scare tactics, just objective information of the effects drugs have in your body. If you want to take drugs you'll do it, so I think information is better that the "this shit kills you".
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#27 Old 21st Sep 2010 at 4:09 AM
Fucking seriously? They're still around? Just wow! I don't know how to even respond to that.

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#28 Old 22nd Sep 2010 at 5:59 AM
Quote: Originally posted by Undercovers_Agent
So would I be hated If I was "That guy" who did drugs, had sex, got in fights, and drank durring his teen years?


Yes... by the people you had bad sex with, the people you fought with and the people you didn't share your drugs with!
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#29 Old 22nd Sep 2010 at 11:33 AM
If all the people you have sex with end up hating you, ur doin it rong.

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#30 Old 22nd Sep 2010 at 7:45 PM
Quote: Originally posted by simbalena
Yes... by the people you had bad sex with, the people you fought with and the people you didn't share your drugs with!


Haha that made my depressing day, sadly two people died today, one was 11-44 unknown the other was a kid who just got his license that I'd known for a while, drunk driver, which does really relate to the topic, drinking is fine, but only when moderated.

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#31 Old 30th Sep 2010 at 1:27 PM
Just saw this and thought it was pretty funny, and relevant to this debate:

http://notalwaysright.com/will-power-on-aisle-2/7306
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#32 Old 2nd Oct 2010 at 6:51 AM
wow lol.

anyway, no one ever really talked to me about sex except my doctor when I was like eleven or twelve, and my friends and I figured out everything out on our own after that, either by books, porn, other stuff from the internet... whatever. I think a lot of the problem was that growing up, my parents made sex out to be this big mystery. no one ever talked about it or anything. it was almost taboo to mention it or anything. and I'm a naturally curious person, so of course after a certain age this dug at me but I was always to terrified because I honestly thought it was this huge deal or something. now, I think the problem is that people don't think it is a big enough deal.

and those drug commercials are retarded. they're cheesy and they tell you NOTHING about drugs. like some of them I don't even get... like that one about the people in the diner and the one guy is like "nah I gotta go hit the books" and the guy working at the diner looks at his friends like they're crazy and doesn't let them order food or something?? what the hell? that doesn't even indicate that they're on drugs or anything. bleh.
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#33 Old 2nd Oct 2010 at 7:09 AM
I had comprehensive sex ed in freshman year of high school taught by my biology teacher. The class consisted of a detailed discussion of sexual anatomy, the effectiveness of different contraceptives, and pregnancy, among other things that I can't remember because it's 2 in the morning. My teacher kept saying "Abstinence is the only 100% effective method of conctraception," and said that sex should be reserved for marriage or a committed relationship, but in a way that wasn't moralizing. It's true that you should take sex seriously, especially at my age (15). They've done studies, and teenagers who are sexually active outside of a committed relationship do worse in school. As for drugs, I received mostly straight information, though I can't remember exactly how much I got.

And pinketamine- it's interesting you bring up going to a Catholic school, because my mother went to one during the seventies, and she received comprehensive sex ed. Must have been a pretty enlightened school.
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#34 Old 2nd Oct 2010 at 5:47 PM
Quote: Originally posted by cancerously
like that one about the people in the diner and the one guy is like "nah I gotta go hit the books" and the guy working at the diner looks at his friends like they're crazy and doesn't let them order food or something?? what the hell? that doesn't even indicate that they're on drugs or anything. bleh.


Well, that's not quite right.
That commercial features a bunch of 'trendy urban youths' sitting in a diner, Urban Youth A mentions that he is "gonna go get twisted" (twisted, tha fuck?) and asks if Urban Youth B wants do join. He declines, stating that he's "gotta hit the books, man". Urban Youth B asks the owner of the diner if he can pay, and to our shock, the owner says "nah". For a moment, Urban Youth B is shocked, but is then relieved one-and-a-half seconds later to hear the owner say "we straight".

What's the message here, kids? Don't do drugs and people will give you stuff for free.

Lying wasn't working, let's try bribery.

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#35 Old 3rd Oct 2010 at 4:29 PM
Quote: Originally posted by pare321
Well, that's not quite right.
That commercial features a bunch of 'trendy urban youths' sitting in a diner, Urban Youth A mentions that he is "gonna go get twisted" (twisted, tha fuck?) and asks if Urban Youth B wants do join. He declines, stating that he's "gotta hit the books, man". Urban Youth B asks the owner of the diner if he can pay, and to our shock, the owner says "nah". For a moment, Urban Youth B is shocked, but is then relieved one-and-a-half seconds later to hear the owner say "we straight".

What's the message here, kids? Don't do drugs and people will give you stuff for free.

Lying wasn't working, let's try bribery.



OH! it makes more sense now. although, if the audience can't hear the person ask if they "want to get twisted" the commercial still isn't effective.
Field Researcher
#36 Old 3rd Oct 2010 at 9:06 PM
How do condoms fail? I really dont see it.

Unless your so desperate for the DD's that you split it while 'equipping' it.
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#37 Old 3rd Oct 2010 at 9:15 PM
Unless I've misunderstood you, they can split, come off, go missing, certain oils can disintegrate the rubber.
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#38 Old 3rd Oct 2010 at 9:25 PM
Quote: Originally posted by el_flel
Unless I've misunderstood you, they can split, come off, go missing, certain oils can disintegrate the rubber.


I like you said "go missing"

It sorta makes me a bit uptight about sex now. Is "the pill" 100% safe too? Obviously im not implying i take it (lol) or that ill force my girlfriend to take one, its just i dont want to end up being a 16 year old mentally insane dad.
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#39 Old 3rd Oct 2010 at 9:57 PM
Nothing is 100% safe when it comes to contraception, but provided they are used as they should be they will be about 97-99% effective.
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#40 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 12:55 AM
Quote: Originally posted by el_flel
Nothing is 100% safe when it comes to contraception, but provided they are used as they should be they will be about 97-99% effective.


Abstinence is 100% safe.

It's not much fun, either.
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#41 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 4:13 AM
Using both the pill and a condom/diaphragm- you should be fine.

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#42 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 5:29 AM
Quote: Originally posted by pare321
Using both the pill and a condom/diaphragm- you should be fine.
Diaphragms aren't usually viable options for teens. Long-term diaphragms are expensive, and both long-term and immediate use diaphragms come in a myriad of shapes and sizes for the, er, discerning vagina that must be fit by a physician.

It's best to go with a three-punch combination of the pill, a condom (male has a lower failure rate), and withdrawl. Withdrawl is actually intended with the use of condoms (so long as you grab on), and it helps stop issues like a broken condom that may go unnoticed. Only the condom will protect you against STDs, so don't trust the pill alone. Also, for the love of God, DON'T DOUBLE BAG IT. That increases the chances of condom failure.

If you do these three things, and you do them right, you'll only have to worry about immaculate conception.
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#43 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 12:28 PM
Quote: Originally posted by fakepeeps7
Abstinence is 100% safe.

It's not much fun, either.
I personally wouldn't count abstinence as a contraception. Yeah, it prevents pregnancy and STD's but only because you're not actually partaking in the activity which leads to those things! The whole point of contraception is that you get the best of both worlds
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#44 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 3:04 PM
Quote: Originally posted by cancerously
OH! it makes more sense now. although, if the audience can't hear the person ask if they "want to get twisted" the commercial still isn't effective.


The commercial is just showing the right thing. It took me a few times to get it but in the end the owner was showing the boy did the right thing. And seriously Urban Youth? You sound like my grandma.

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#45 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 3:09 PM
Quote: Originally posted by el_flel
I personally wouldn't count abstinence as a contraception. Yeah, it prevents pregnancy and STD's but only because you're not actually partaking in the activity which leads to those things!


That's true... if abstinence is "100% effective contraception" then so is suicide. Or castration.
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#46 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 5:56 PM
I didn't go to high school but from attending sixth grade we did color the urethra of a man's penis green. It was dumb. I know I am going to tell my kids when they are 8. My sister is 10 and she knows about sex from other kids and she got her period two months before her birthday. I personally feel its dumb. Our world use to birth kids before their 16th birthday. When did we become so prudish? We should be able to embrace our sexuality.

I haven't seen D.A.R.E since 2001-2002. I personally believe you shouldn't smoke pot or any other drug. I even don't agree with drinking; I have but nothing more than a paper cup like 8oz and I didn't even drink it all. I also think having sex at a young age is okay as long as you do it carefully and your parents know.

When it comes to it though it is the parents choice to educate the children. I hate to hear I raised my kids better than that and you didn't do two shits with them.

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#47 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 6:20 PM
Quote: Originally posted by HystericalParoxysm
That's true... if abstinence is "100% effective contraception" then so is suicide. Or castration.
Exactly. It's faulty logic to me.

Many fun things carry risk; simply saying "don't do it", whilst being true that it eliminates the risk, is pointless advice because obviously the person wants to do it therefore they wish to know the risks and how to reduce the chances of them.
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#48 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 6:30 PM
Quote: Originally posted by pare321
Using both the pill and a condom/diaphragm- you should be fine.

I was on the pill, exclusively breastfeeding my 5 month old daughter (supposedly breastfeeding hormones reduce fertility) and had sex only once, using a condom, when my second child was conceived.
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#49 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 6:33 PM
My friend used a condom and then when it split she took the morning after pill. BOTH failed to stop her getting pregnant. Some people are just unlucky.
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#50 Old 4th Oct 2010 at 10:39 PM
Quote: Originally posted by treegirl17
And seriously Urban Youth? You sound like my grandma.


Obviously you didn't get that I was saying the commercial portrayed stereotypes.

I got it the first time, it's bribery. I realize that the owner is saying "You did the right thing by refusing drugs, now here's your reward" But instead of informing teens of the risks associated with drugs, and giving them enough respect to make an informed decision (which is, ultimately all you can do, because you can't hold Johnny's hand forever) they use a not so clever metaphor to say that "Hey, drugs are a bad thing, and if you say no to them, you get a good thing! Way to go, slugger!"

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