You really chose the wrong source to quote. That sort of thing is far more likely to come from a conservative viewpoint, and thus is more biased.

Christian propaganda, that's all that is especially since it's coming from conservapedia.

actually real cases of ex-gays, and they are all sourced

Let's put it this way, if they were truly completely homosexual there's no way they'd be "ex-gay". They'd have to have been at least bisexual to be "ex-gay".

Conservapedia, right wing religious bias and propoganda if I ever saw it.

Your "proof" actually supports what I said about people forcing themselves to act straight against their nature through religion.

Come up with something from academia and I might be interested.

they can feel atraction for the same sex, but not be involved in same-sex relationships, only straight ones

So they are either liars or bisexual

if u dont believe news sites, then i have nothing to say...

They're still homosexuals then. Only, homosexuals forcing themselves to have relationships with people they are NOT attracted to just to appease religious people around them. That doesn't make them heterosexuals.
An analogy: I could attend the mass regularly for years. If I still don't believe in a god, going to the mass doesn't make me a Christian, but an atheist going to the church for some reason.

Also, way to quote a source admittedly very biased, champ. (Conservapedia isn't a news site, it's a conservative-oriented encyclopedia...)

I wouldn't consider conservapedia a "news site" since it is biased. It's rather hard to find a news media outlet that ISN'T biased.

some of them are, but others just... become straight

Rubbish, if they are truely homosexual they don't.


Some homosexual people lie to themselves and enter straight relationships mostly because of religion, it doesn't mean they arent gay anymore. It just means there living a lie.

look the article's sources



some of them

you do realize that at least 90% of the article's sources are religiously biased right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex-gay if u want neutral POV, there are still cases of people becoming straight



i mean article sources, not the conservapedia (i know what it is)



u think these are lies? who would write an article like that being it a lie?

The religious right, like Conservapedia.



OMG wikipedia now, another font of truth.

While that is neutral(ish), the cases of "people becoming straight" come directly from religious groups which believe homosexuality is a choice.

You missed the key phrase: "identify as". They still feel attraction towards the same sex, they just call themselves straight. It doesn't make them straight.

Hey guys, from now on, I'm no longer French. I'm a Martian. Call me "Ex-Earthling".


I facepalmed again, so hard it hurt both my forehead and my hand. You owe me new joints.
Those people wrote that article not to neutrally document the movement, but to serve their own ideology, that's the principle of a biased source. And you need to learn to show a bit more criticism about what you read on the Internet; people could spend much more time than what you expect writing pages of bullshit.

(please, please take time to write actual responses instead of mass-posting one-sentence posts kthx)

you were complaining about conservapedia's POV, and i give a neutral article, you think liberal is truth?

also to quote wikipedia

what i said above

OMG an Alien, Someone call Mulder.



OMG an Alien, Someone call Mulder.

because most of the cases are religious-related

liberals may have it wrong as well but they at least don't claim they are correct in the way they think because their imaginary sky faerie told them to think that way.

I'm not saying the Wikipedia article is a lie, I'm saying you misunderstood something about someone not identifying as gay anymore and someone not actually being gay anymore. They still feel attraction towards the same sex, for Aphrodite's sake!


In other words, religious pressure forces them to frustrate and delude themselves.


You've seen the posting style of the guy, right? Are you surprised?

Again, strangeguy823, please try to think before you post. It's a forum, not a chatroom!